Stripped phillips screw

[JOHNDADDY]

My opinion of small screws.....Allen can be just as bad as phillips when you have to use a small allen wrench. Hex head may be a better choice when the bolt/screw is small.

I think the phillips is more for aesthetics, jewelry pc.
With the proper bit and some never seize shouldn't have happened in the first place.
Gotta be close to if not a 5/16 bolt. Everything stock I ordered was wrong, gotta measure.
Quick can't I rant moment.
Remember when every hardware store had hardware??? Like anything you could possibly need,
nuts bolts and washers.

 

[JOHNDADDY]

My opinion of small screws.....Allen can be just as bad as phillips when you have to use a small allen wrench. Hex head may be a better choice when the bolt/screw is small.

Thanks Melnic. In my cart.

 

[5twins]

Exactly which fastener is this (location)? No matter really, it would be metric if original, most likely an M6. One of the first things I do when I get one of these is replace the original Phillips on the lower inner rear fender with stainless hex heads .....

 

[JJames]

I may be too late but I'll post this anyhow. First off, i agree that the manual impact screwdriver is the way to go in most situations. I've been batling the screws on a rusty Honda Accord brake rotor all morning. One other way that I've had a lot of luck with is a

pair of small nippers. They are very sharp and will bite into the sides of the screw. You can bite either from the top, perpendicular to the surface or with the tool flat against the surface.

 

[mrtwowheel]

Remember when every hardware store had hardware??? Like anything you could possibly need,
nuts bolts and washers.

Walked into Lowes the other day to see what they had in metric stainless allen, don't get to that town very often. Wow, first glance, what a selection, but, but, empty drawers everywhere. I walked out empty handed.

 

[JOHNDADDY]

Didn't get to touch it last night.
Today after work.
Granddaughter #6 is on the way.

 

[bosco659]

Another method - drill a hole in the Center of the screw - obviously not too big. Hammer in an appropriately sized torx bit, then try to turn it out. Don’t go too deep into the fastener or the torx bit might cause the screw shank to expand slightly, causing binding.

 

[Wingedwheel]

Has anyone had luck with these?
I kind recollect trying once a long time ago with no results.
Best brand and method?
Thanks.

I’ve had better than a 50% success with those but not on a rusted screw. Usually the reverse bits work best but yes sometimes you run across one that just has to be completely drilled out. Luckily yours is on a fender, not an obscure hole on the engine case.

 

[5twins]

Get some anti-seize as well. Just about every fastener on the bike should get it eventually.

 

[Wordman]

And once you have it out, invest in a set of Vessel JIS screwdrivers.

 

[atom4488]

And once you have it out, invest in a set of Vessel JIS screwdrivers.

Surprised no one has mentioned heat... I find that the most stubborn fasteners generally respond favorably to being heated cherry-red. Anything that gets even a little grip, like a torx bit, will usually allow you to remove the offending hardware.

 

[JOHNDADDY]

Found my impact, phillips head no dice.
Slotted an edge I could get to and a straight blade in the impact, two hits and it's out.

Made a short allen and bought a few phillips, have to cut them down to size or it'll hit my tire if I hit a bump.
Got a few pictures that won't download but we welcomed Madilyn Rose at 12:15 Aug 21 2024 8lbs 13oz
Mom and baby are doing fine. When I figure out what happened I'll post a pic.
Have a cigar.

 

[atom4488]

Found my impact, phillips head no dice.
Slotted an edge I could get to and a straight blade in the impact, two hits and it's out.
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Made a short allen and bought a few phillips, have to cut them down to size or it'll hit my tire if I hit a bump.
Got a few pictures that won't download but we welcomed Madilyn Rose at 12:15 Aug 21 2024 8lbs 13oz
Mom and baby are doing fine. When I figure out what happened I'll post a pic.
Have a cigar.

Congratulations!

 

[5twins]

You never did tell us (or show us) exactly where this fastener is located.

 

[atom4488]

Walked into Lowes the other day to see what they had in metric stainless allen, don't get to that town very often. Wow, first glance, what a selection, but, but, empty drawers everywhere. I walked out empty handed.

Don't know how local they may be to you, but Ace Hardware stores (at least the ones I have visited) have a fantastic assortment of hardware, including metric/stainless/allen.

 

[JOHNDADDY]

Mom always told me "Johnny you'll be late for your own funeral!"
My response was " Late? Mom I don't plan to attend."
Surprised I didn't get a smack for that.
Madylin Rose! #6!

 

[Tone]

Just about all Philips head screws on Japanese bikes will be wrecked. The reason being they are not Philips heads, they are JIS. Whilst they look the same they are not and that is why just about everyone uses Philips head screwdrivers on them. Philips head screwdrivers can't be used on a JIS screws without wrecking the head of the screw, but the opposite is not true, a JIS screwdriver give an almost perfect fit on Philips heads and so will work far better on a Philips head than a Philips head will on a JIS as a Philips head is a very poor fit on a JIS screw. A good reason to toss your Philips head screwdrivers and just buy JIS drivers. JIS heads are designed for high torque applications whereas Philips heads are at best low torque and will slip or skate easy. Here's some pictures you'll notice in the last picture how much of a better fit a JIS is to the Philips.
When removing screws with wrecked heads use the smallest ezi out you can get away with, less chance of tearing the head off, less chance of drilling through the thread and you can screw the ezi out further in for a better grip.

 

[Max Midnight]

When removing screws with wrecked heads use the smallest ezi out you can get away with, less chance of tearing the head off, less chance of drilling through the thread and you can screw the ezi out further in for a better grip.

If you choose this route use a LH drill for the pilot hole. As this turns anti clockwise it may well undo the screw as you drill.
I would be concerned about using the smallest extractor as they will be easier to break if too much torque is applied....then the problems really start!

 

[JOHNDADDY]

You never did tell us (or show us) exactly where this fastener is located.

Sorry 5T missed your post. It hold my seat to the fender, this is on my sporty.
I shortened the screw length so less is exposed to the elements
and never seized it. Added an external lock washer to help it stay in place.

 

[Tone]

I've never managed to snap or break an ezi out, no matter the size. I think you may just be more ham fisted than me. But you hit on a good point. I recently broke a left hand thread screw that prevents a drill chuck from coming loose. Not a problem, as I drilled into it it came loose so I never needed any further work.