Subject: Big Gun

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First there was this gun...
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It was developed by General Electric, the "We bring good things to life" people.
It's one of the modern-day Gatling guns.
It shoots very big bullets...
It shoots them very quickly...

Someone said, "Let's put it in an airplane."

Someone else said, "Better still, let's build an airplane around it."
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So they did. And "they" were the Fairchild Republic airplane people.

And they had done such a good job with an airplane they developed back in WWII .....called the P-47 Thunderbolt!

They decided to call it the A10 Thunderbolt.

They made it so it was very good at flying low and slow and shooting things with that fabulous gun.

But since it did fly low and slow, they made it bulletproof, or almost so.
A lot of bad guys have found you can shoot an A10 with anything from a pistol to a 23mm Soviet cannon and it just keeps on flying and shooting.

When they got through, it looked like this.

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It's not sleek and sexy like an F18 or the stealthy Raptors and such, but I think it's such a great airplane because it does what it does better than any other plane in the world.

It kills tanks.

Not only tanks, as Sadam Hussein's boys found out to their horror, but armored personnel carriers, radar stations, locomotives, bunkers, fuel depots... just about anything the bad guys thought was bulletproof turned out to be easy pickings for this beast.
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See those engines. One of them alone will fly this plane.
The pilot sits in a very thick titanium alloy "bathtub."

That's typical of the design.

They were smart enough to make every part the same whether mounted on the left side or right side of the plane, like landing gear, for instance.

Because the engines are mounted so high (away from ground debris) and the landing gear uses such low pressure tires, it can operate from a damaged airport, interstate highway, plowed field, or dirt road.

Everything is redundant.
They have two of almost everything.
Sometimes they have three of something.
Like flight controls, there's triple redundancy of those,
and even if there is a total failure of the double hydraulic system, there is a set of manual flying controls.

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Capt. Kim Campbell sustained this damage over Bagdad and flew for another hour before returning to base.
But, back to that gun.

It's so hard to grasp just how powerful it is.
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This is the closest I could find to showing you just what this cartridge is all about.
What the guy is holding is NOT the 30mm round, but a"little" 50 Browning machine gun roundand the 20mm cannon round which has been around for a long time.
The 30mm is MUCH bigger.
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Down at the bottom are the .50 BMG and 20x102 Vulcan the fellow was holding.
At the bottom right is the bad boy we're discussing.

Let's get some perspective here: The .223 Rem (M16 rifle round) is fast.

It shoots a 55 or so grain bullet at about 3300 feet/sec, give or take.
It's the fastest of all those rounds shown (except one).
When you move up to the ..30 caliber rounds, the bullets jump up in weight to 160-200 grains. Speeds run from about 2600 to 3000 fps or so.

The .338 Lapua is the king of the sniper rifles these days and shoots a 350 grain bullet at 2800 fps or so.
They kill bad guys at over a mile with that one.

The 50 BMG is really big. Mike Beasley has one on his desk.
Everyone who picks it up thinks it's some sort of fake, unless they know big ammo.
It's really huge with a bullet that weighs 750 grains and goes as fast the Lapua.

I don't have data on the Vulcan, but hang on to your hat.

The bullet for the 30x173 Avenger has an aluminum jacket around a spent uranium core and weighs 6560 grains (yes, over 100 times as heavy as the M16 bullet, and flies through the air at 3500 fps (which is faster than the M16 as well).

The gun shoots at a rate of 4200 rounds per minute, Yes, four thousand.
Pilots typically shoot either one- or two-second burst which set loose 70 to 150 rounds.

The system is optimized for shooting at 4,000 feet.

OK, the best for last.

You've got a pretty good idea of how big that cartridge is, but I'll bet you're like me and you don't fully appreciate how big the GA GAU-8 Avenger really is.

Take a look.

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Each of those seven barrels is 112" long.
That's almost ten feet.
The entire gun is 19-1/2 feet long.
Think how impressive it would look set up in your living room.

Oh, by the way, it doesn't eject the empty shells but runs them back into the storage drum. There's just so dang many flying out, they felt it might damage the aircraft.
Oh yeah, I forgot, they can hang those bomb and rocket things on 'em too, just in case.
After all, it is an "airplane"!

Like I said, this is a beautiful design.
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I'm glad it's ours.
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I've seen this before, not quite in this detail.

That is one damned impressive airplane. They've tried to retire it at least once that I know of but, sorta like the USS New Jersey was from WW-II to Desert Storm, it's such a rugged, versatile platform and so danged useful they just can't.

(SCPO, USN, Retired, BTW...:))
 
I've seen this before, not quite in this detail.

That is one damned impressive airplane. They've tried to retire it at least once that I know of but, sorta like the USS New Jersey was from WW-II to Desert Storm, it's such a rugged, versatile platform and so danged useful they just can't.

(SCPO, USN, Retired, BTW...:))
Thanks for your service :thumbsup:

my uncle retired from the navy CWO he was on the Forestall aircraft carrier (CV-59).
I was an ADJ jet mech on A-4s in the Corp I was in the Black Sheep Squadron VMA-214
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While I was at basic training at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri I heard the A-10s almost daily. I don't think ill ever forget the sound they make while firing. Sounds like the sky being ripped apart, which in a way it was.
 
The A10 does indeed have a tertiary hydraulic system, they are made by the same company that made the F105, flown during the VietNam war. Rugged is they're middle name. Those armour piercing rounds are made of depleted uranium and can punch thru just abouting anything out there. The US Air Force was already in the process of getting rid of the A10, then the first Gulf War happened. DUH! This thing works great for close air support, somebody woke up and decided they might be handy to have. The Origins of the A10 squadrons were the 23rd Tactical Fighter wing, at one time F105 squadrons, going all the way back to WWII 23rd Pursuit and the China AVG flying Tigers, hence the shark mouth you will see painted on them.

The Air Force loves bells & whistles and gadgets that are high tech, and tho it's pretty much just a stick & rudder plane , they have upgraded them some a few years ago at Davis- Monthan AFB. I am an Air Force veteran, retired from the Army, and I've done contract maintenance for the Air Force for the last 29 years, and I can tell you the sound of that gun is sweet music to the ears of a grunt on the ground. Those high bypass turbofan engines are very fuel efficient, they can loiter over an area for a long time, as apposed to an F16 which sucks a lot of fuel and might have 20 min over a target before they need to egress and refuel. You are right Carbon........I'm glad it's ours.
 
The A-10A was the last plane(and the only subsonic) plane I crewed on. I've crawled about every place that can be in on that jet. It IS a well designed and well made jet. Easy to maintain. The gun is BIG. The rounds drum is HUGE. I've been to the range were they play. Trust me. You do NOT want to be on the receiveing end of these bad boys. What I saw was training ammo. I don't want to see what HE ammo can do. Just in the last year they came out with the "C" model of this series. Only 2 "B" models were made.
Republic made some great aircraft. P-47, F-84, F-105 and the A-10. America makes the best goods!
I crewed on F-100(OK ANG), F-111(big pig), F-4(another pig), F-16(my fav) and the A-10(easiest plane I ever worked).
 
Azman, I crewed F105 in Thailand '69-70. I've seen many come back shot to hell and still made it. Their only drawback was a single engine, but if they pointed that thing at the deck and went balls out, nothing could catch it. Worked on F4 for a short time....living proof that with enough power even a brick can fly. I lived in Tucson back in the 70's up by Ruthrauf Rd. Still have some friends out there.
 
Is this the "Warthog" plane? The father of a co-worker flew them in Vietnam and held some record for awhile. I'd heard a lot of stories about him and one day he came to visit us at work. If he wasn't the meekest most soft-spoken guy anybody ever saw! Perfectly healthy and all but it was like you could have pushed him over with your little finger.
 
Is this the "Warthog" plane? The father of a co-worker flew them in Vietnam and held some record for awhile. I'd heard a lot of stories about him and one day he came to visit us at work. If he wasn't the meekest most soft-spoken guy anybody ever saw! Perfectly healthy and all but it was like you could have pushed him over with your little finger.

yes sir its the Warthog!:yikes:
 
When I lived in Pa...I used to see them come over my house , about 300 ft off the ground. My dog crapped herself every time. Something about the sound and vibes. I would run over to the clearing of trees and see them following the terrain heading south to Aberdeen Md. Still see em here in De once in awhile.
 
Just about every other day I have, usually, 2 F-18's and 2 A-10's fly over. I like to watch the neighbors looking towards the sound, as the jet is already way past 'em.
 
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