Testing gggGary's Madness Pocket Port...

Thanks for the comments. For certain, the Hammer Performance CNC porting is transformational on the 1200 Buell (five speed Evo Sportster) motors.
Would that apply to a 93 RS1200?
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asking for a fiend.

Here's the boroscope port pics I wuz speak'n of. The detail is the hard to see short turn under the valve seat. on THIS head there are some distinct ledges those can't be good for flow. Chew'n on what to do about it....
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. On the "brutally ported" head the grinder cut back the seat lip some to even it out.
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@gggGary hell, yes. Best tell your friend.

My 91 RS1200 made 75 rwhp on the dyno with the following set up -

Hammer Performance CNC ported heads with oversized valves, bronze guides, beehive springs. (Basically an XB12 set up). Heads decked with matched chambers to give true 10.5:1 CR. Shorter pushrods to suit the decked heads (not strictly necessary but I'm a bit anal like that and I wanted the lifters to be at half travel with the decked heads). Hammer rebored the jugs to 0.010" over and supplied forged Wiseco 10.5:1 pistons.

Camshafts, zorst, carburettor and air filter stayed stock.

So, maybe a ~30% uplift in rear wheel horsepower. Rides just like a stock bike but just SO much more exciting. There's an easy 95 rwhp on the table with different camshafts, inlet manifold and exhaust system if wanted.

Unfortunately, I could no longer fit onto the bike so it went to a very good friend who's delighted with it.
 
I had a Doctor Appt this afternoon which resulted in some additional errands.
Gators playing Roundball again tonight so there will be no smoke show until tomorrow.
Again I imagine it will anti-climatic for most.

I do think that there are some that will be interested in the attached Video as it is directly related
I made this video back when I started doing this...
It's all about discovery af facts vs myths.
I do all my testing with an open mind, without any preconcieved ideals that I need to prove.
The consistent repeatable tests don't lie, the numbers are what they are always.
My only objective is and always has been to make certain the process is driven by the actual data.
This video is simply an overview of how I went about doing my Pocket Port and giving a glance in what is involved.

Some things that I have learned from testing my Pocket Port as well as gggGary's Madness Pocket Port...
The cut on the left side at the opening of the port is an intentional enginered design that I call Vaning.
That is because it's intent is to provide a slight constriction to accelerate the air just prior to the swelling within the port.
In doing so it also does a great deal to aid in creating Swirl which is an important ingredient
for Maximum burning of the fuel mixture and increased power. Something that should not be overlooked.
The Increased Velocity equates to Kinetic Energy which pushes against the air slowed by the opening
or swelling section of the port creating a High PRESSURE Zone right before the MSCA (Minimal Cross Sectional Area).
This is what creates the force for the inertia not only while the valve is opened but even more importantly
while it is closed to maximize the power of the mixture to pack the cylinder once the valve once again opens
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My testing as evidenced within this thread as well as the testing on my own Pocket Port,
make it obvious that there are Little to NO gains to be had from doing this.
(Disregarding highly built race motors, this dicussion is about street/ hot street set ups).
The port is already too big. Making it bigger only slows the Ultra important VELOCITY!
The Port is so cavernous that streamlining the air flow by removing these casting flaws produces no gains.
This is due to the Port's inefficiency. An example of this is the Flowball testing.
I can place a 6.3mm (1/4") flowball into the stock port virtually anywhere (excepting the SST) without disrupting flow.
Clearly these casting flaws are nowhere near that, making it obvious that they will have even less effect.
The fact that the XS650 ports are too large is something that has repeatedly been mentioned within this forum by a multitude of members.
The fact is that the Stock head already flows enough CFM. The testing is very clear and irrefutable.
To achieve any gains from Pocket Porting, there has to be other work done.
The cavernous volume needs to be shrunk to make the port EFFICIENT!

In an Efficient Port, I can place a 4mm flowball anywhere within the port and see a disruption.
My smallest flowball (1/8) of an inch causes disruption in nearly 80% of the port.
In a Stock Port I can get disruption with a 1/4" flowball in less than 10% of the port (SST just before the valve mainly)
The remedy for making the Ports flow better is in REDUCING the Volume!
This is best done by building up the floor, Decreasing Volume which Increases VELOCITY.
That also has the added benefit of making it possible to recreate the SST's profile
allowing us to slow and or direct the flow over this critical area.
Proper shaping of the raised floor also allows for directing the air towards the roof,
providing gains in Velocity throughout that region as well while maintaing CFM.

The other way to make gains in the XS650 Port is Valve/Valve Seat work.
This is where any gains (or losses) at low lift are created. There is a lot to be gained in this critical area.
T
he Improved CFMs gained from this area are every bit as Important as those made anywhere else within the port.
Certainly one needs to exercise caution if DIY. There is the Potential of flowing it too fast at the low lifts if one gets too slick.
That is if the rest of the Port is Efficient. A well done 3 angle on a Stock Head has shown substantial improvement in the Total CFM
However on a Highly Efficient Port that "extra" speed can become disruptive.
That is why I ended up placing a simple 45* angle on the D45 F head. Indeed that is what the "45" Stands for.
I absolutely DO Recommend placing a 30* "Back cut" on both the Intake and Exhaust Valves regardless.
Provides a nice bump at the low lifts for Velocity as well as CFM.
The Valve and Port work together, so there is no one size fits all way of doing it.
This stuff is VERY difficult to do and get right without being able to test.
A 2mm difference can cost you 3% or more ((4-5 Cfm) as seen in the attached diagram.
Again.. as always, do what you will with the information,
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink".
The Video (which includes the 3 angle Valve job) and some pics attached....




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Here's the boroscope port pics I wuz speak'n of. The detail is the hard to see short turn under the valve seat. on THIS head there are some distinct ledges those can't be good for flow. Chew'n on what to do about it....
From the pics it looks like the valve seat throat is proud of the bowl. If that is correct it will affect the short side turn especially at lower lifts.
As the VDP charts show, most air moves across the valve on the LST. What you are seeing is NOT causation. Air wants to go there.
MInimal to be gained by addressing it IMHO.

As for a repair.. I would advise against using J B Epoxy because there is an issue with that product delaminating with less than 2mm of thickness,
The smearing to smooth the edge of the epoxy build up that is commonly seen is a grave error in the port as evidenced by the Delamination issues seen in the D Port Re-Port head thread. I did a very deep and long study on this issue when I was working on that project, speaking with their technical representatives as well as many other Epoxy Manufacturers while contemplating what to use myself.
They were very clear that one will need at a minimum 2mm, and they recommended more.
They verified that they suspected the cause of the delamination was from the application being too thin.
That is why the same epoxy used by Hugh on the floor of that head had absolutely ZERO issues.

The insert I discussed with you would solve this as well as substantially increase the Velocity. It's just not fully ready yet unfortunately.
You will get a glimpse of what I'm talking about shortly although it isn't yet fully tuned/developed.
 
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Ok so the Smoke testing which is informative when combined with the other data collected.
Not sure the videos are of any benefit for the masses but I record them to analyze in slow mo.
I said I would share everything so here they are. Make of them what you will.
I won't be pinpointing the anything in the videos,
First the (.01, .02, .03, .04) test points for the Left Port.
I left the sound on so you can hear the air flow.. ADJUST YOUR VOLUME!





 
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Finally the same points for the Right Port...





Next I will give a quick review to wrap it up.
After that I will demonstrate the real answer for those that want to improve their Cylinder Head,
and thus, their Engine's Performance and Throttle Response.... We'll add a VELOCITIZER into the mix...
 
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I think I have pretty much explained it but I'll finish this with just a few quick hits.
Hopefully without beating the horse to Death.

Testing clearly shows that a stock head is already oversized and easily flows the CFM required by a 650/700cc motor.

More CFM is LESS. This is because it REDUCES the Port efficiency.

Too little CFM CHOKES the motor.
(I will be displaying examples of "Choke" in the Velocitizer Thread)

What is required for Optimum Efficiency (and therefore Optimum Power and Throttle Response),
is for the CFMs to be correctly sized for the Engine;s Volumetrics, i.e. (Bore, Stroke, Lift, RPMs, Valve Size, etc.).
This MAXIMIZES VELOCITY which is the goal of any actual Porter, Not CFMs.

The XS650 Ports are too big so it makes no sense to make them larger. The CFM Gains are minimal to negligible.
The Velocity is already too low and suffers more from removal of material.


Finally...
There are NO Performance gains to be made by Pocket Porting a Stock 650/700cc XS with a lift of 0.400 or less.
These results are not related to the quality of this particular Pocket Port by gggGary.
The testing results from the Head I Pocket Ported are nearly Identical to his.
There is definitely an issue on the Madness Head as related to the valves and or seat areas.
I believe gggGary will be able to sort that out with a little more effort in those particular areas.

I do have an answer that is still in development (perhaps 70% there) and not yet optimized
Still as I will demonstrate, that although the Velocitizer is not yet even fully tuned or fully developed, the increase in Velocity while maintaining the required CFMs show a very significant improvement. VERY significant.
I will be posting that data, soon... Hopefully tommorow.
As always I am open to any legitimate questions and will do my best to answer them.
Fast Air Goes FAST !
 
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Finally a glimps of what is coming soon and how effective it can be.
The insert is in development and not yet tuned, however it has shown great improvement as it is.
The plan is to create a process where I can with great consistency Velocitize the ports for 600cc & 700cc
XS motors. Higher Compression creates even more gain.

The every day riders that I talk with are wanting better throttle response and power through the curve.
They are not trying to find balls out HP. That group of mostly racers require specialized Port Design,
which I can provide BTW... just saying.

My goal is to create something that benefits a larger percentage with the next step in hand porting technique.
The goal is to be able to apply the design repeatedly within stock ports and consistently achieve repeatable gains.

VERY Significant Gains in Velocity.

Most understand that CNC Porting provides the most consistently repeatable results.
No Hand Porter can match the precision of the machine. Precision is most important in the port matching stage.
Two Ports that are hand ported will not absolutely match. To equalize, a porter has to tune "down" to the lower performing port.
Otherwise more material would have to be added to the underperforming port to tune "up",
which leads to potential issues with stacking epoxy or whatever material is chosen.

Once an Insert has been optimized, it is then sand cast using 1960s aluminum.
The sand castings will be virtually identical. It is then affixed in the Port.
They should provide VERY close/tight test results and performance. That's the plan.


The insert tested here was a clay blank and not my aluminum blank.
Once again this is shown as example only. It is perhaps 70% developed.
Got it a bit too fast...
Missed the "Goldilocks Zone". But I will most defintely find it.

I'm headed to Gainesville Fl in the morning to see my son and go watch the Mighty Gators play some Roundball.
Be back sometime midweek perhaps..
I'll try to answer what I can when I can if there are any questions...

 

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What epoxy are you gonna use to install 'em?
I will use a special aluminum epoxy I used before. JB Weld would suffice. Additionally, once epoxied, I will drill an approx. 3mm hole from the underside through the port as well as the insert.
That will be filled with an epoxied aluminum pin.
The insert itself will be cast from vintage cast aluminum. I will be test casting some things soon as I am closing in on getting it dialed in.
The sand cast texture is an added plus..
 
You're probably already aware, but I'll point it out for others...

Aluminum starts to oxidize as soon as it's introduced to oxygen. Just like welding aluminum, you have to remove that oxide layer to get the best adhesion. Sand, wire brush... use your teeth... :rolleyes: ... whatever it takes, get the oxide layer off, clean with acetone and immediately bond it in place. That'll give you the best adhesion you'll ever achieve.

And yes, J B Weld original formula bonds the aluminum as good as or better than any other I've used, and it's fuel proof.
 
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