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The new life of a 72' XS II - Build thread

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Ketchup Pusher, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    I just tested the paint durability.
    First off, I didn’t cure the cover in the oven for an hour after the first hour at 30 degrees, I only used a heatgun for around 20 Min. Without measuring the temperature.

    For the durability test, I used wd40, gasoline, engine oil and diesel. I took each Test and literally rubbed on the cover using a lot of pressure. Only the gasoline did any easily seen damage, as you can see.
    Since I had to really rub it to remove the paint, and the paint hadn’t had a proper curing process, I’m thinking this paint might be good enough, once it’s cured in an oven.

    Top right corner is WD40
    The upper stripe is engine oil
    Middle stripe under the logo is gasoline
    The bottom stripe is diesel
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  2. MaxPete

    MaxPete Lucille, Betty, Demi & Gretel: I ask, THEY decide. XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Very interesting - good tests. It would useful to see what an oven cure would do.

  3. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Today i prepared to paint the upper crank case, figured I wouldn’t be a big deal. I removed the threaded rods and any leftover grease and paint.
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    It all went well until I noticed that the gear shaft needle bearing still sad snug in the case, so I tried to push it out, but the little fella is stuck...
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    Might have to get someone else to do it as I don’t have the right tools, but I’ll give it another go Tuesday.
  4. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    I ended up just dropping it off at the neighbor to my garage community and let him do the work, he told me to come back tomorrow so that I will.
    I'll update you as soon as possible.
  5. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Bearing has been changed and the upper engine case panited and cured in oven.
    I couldn’t see the difference between paint and bare metal at first, so I almost put a too thick coat on, but I managed.
    Lots of pictures was once requested, so here’s a few:
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  6. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    Looking good! I like the paint, looks a lot cleaner!
  7. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Lower engine case is done, I will test the resistance towards gasoline later. If the paint proves to be good enough I will leave it as is, if not I will paint it with motip clear lacquer heat resistant to 800 Celsius and gasoline resistant.

    Like the first case I started out cleaning inside and out, removing oil, old seals, bearings and any dirt.
    Step two was to tape all the areas of that I didn’t want to paint.
    Step three was to of cause paint the case.
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    Step four: wait an hour while I scrolled through Facebook
    Step five: remove all tape
    Step six: put the damn thing in the oven, and let it cure at 160 degrees for half an hour.
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    I’m truly impressed with the results, it doesn’t look that much like paint, more like fresh raw aluminium.
  8. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    You got really good results with that paint, looks like new. Well done!
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  9. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    Hope I'm not too late here. The litmus test for your paints would be a variety of carb cleaners, with their aggressive cocktails of acetones, ketones, methyl-ethyls, toluene, trichlor, ...etc. Used haphazardly, carb cleaner can go everywhere...
  10. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    I can't see why I would test the paint with carb cleaner, as the engine won't be exposed to carb cleaner when installed? I tested the paint after the curing process, and gasoline didn't really do anything to it, and since gasoline will be the strongest substance the bike might be exposed to, I choose to continue with this paint.
  11. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    Brake fluid, DOT 3 and 4, I would jump at a semi-gloss black enamel that would stand up to brake fluid. I am a messy brake bleeder. I don't know how many newly painted calipers I've stripped the paint off of.

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  12. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Okay stopping the paint comments, if the paint ends up not being durable enough I’ll just have to paint it again.

    Sunday I brought the engine cases back to the garage

    (Which is called Revival Garage, if anyone wants to see what we do, we got a Facebook page and instagram account.)

    I made a cheap and easy engine mount for the upper case, as someone told me that it was easier to assemble the engine from the top.
    I will make a new stand, once it’s time to assemble the rest of the engine.

    Once I had made the engine stand, I couldn’t resist slowly beginning to assemble the engine, never thought it would be so much fun to assemble an engine. :bike:
    A picture from when I just started.
  13. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Before anyone states that the engine isn't entirely clean - the metal is discolored because of oxidation, but I will try to clean it further before I complete the assembly, despite the fact that I have already used countless hours cleaning it on the inside.
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  14. Rasputin

    Rasputin XS650 Addict XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    This is Silver Paint
  15. YamadudeXS650C

    YamadudeXS650C Central New York XS650 XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    "Countless hours" are two of the most familiar words for a vintage bike owner who works on his own.
    Those who are unable to repeat that mantra buy modern bikes.
  16. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    I initially bought the xs 400 because it was cheap(couldn't afford a 650 or any other bike), but I definitely began enjoying all the fixing and polishing it brought along.
    I wouldn't have bought the 650 project if I didn't ;)
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  17. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    Sorry for not posting lately.
    I’ve been moving into a new apartment, so a lot of time was used on the move and adjusting to the new environment.

    I haven’t done much, just removing rust from old parts and ordering new to replace the ones too far away from rescue.
    I’ve used a lot of time, trying to find parts in the buckets, mostly with luck, however I can’t find the “half” circlip for the outgoing gear axle bearing (nr 25 in my Haynes manual).
    So I guess I’ll have to order again - I hate how often I have to order stuff and pay for postage each time, together with the postage for the circlip I’ll end up paying 30£ for a shitty piece half circle of metal...

    Today I received a new piston kit, shift shaft, dowel pins, oil pipe base fitting, clutch hub-bearing, clutch pushrod ball, clutch pushrod bushing, cam needle bearing.
    Lovely costly batch.

    Here’s a few pictures.
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  18. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    I hope you remembered to put 2nd gear back in there...
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  19. Ketchup Pusher

    Ketchup Pusher XS650 Enthusiast

    The engine isn’t assembled mate, but I sure hope so too.
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  20. cra-z1

    cra-z1 XS650 Junkie Top Contributor

    Nice job on the painted cases. I know what it feels like getting all the parts cleaned. Takes a lot of work but satisfying.
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