Washing machine woes

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Just a week or so ago, my wife and I were talking about how older equipment was so well built and seemed to last forever. We were chatting about our Maytag washer and dryer that are now almost 35 years old. They have no bells or whistles snd are just workhorses. Over the life of ownership, we have never had to call a repair person and on the washer, I replaced one hose about 5 years ago. Then last week my wife says there’s water on the floor in the basement. I went to check and go figure, old faithful has sprung a leak. Like most things, I tear into right away and see the source of the water, but can’t figure out why it’s happening.

Turns out, even back then, engineers were concerned about contamination of fresh water supply so they put in an anti back flow device to make sure dirty laundry water doesn’t get sucked back into the water supply. What they did was shoot the water into an open air basket which in turn travelled via a hose to fill the wash drum. For some reason, water was backing up and running out of the basket.

Further investigation found there’s a restrictor device inside the supply hose. This gizmo had become bloated and deformed over years of use and was the culprit for the water leak. I searched parts listings and hard to believe but you can still buy most parts for the machine directly from Maytag! I kept searching and wouldn’t you know it - the piece I was looking for is available from the Chinese on Amazon! Several days later the part is installed and all is well. I’ve attached a photo of the original and replacement.

Reason for posting - a testament to good old equipment, made when quality meant something. I cringe to think about his short the life cycle will be on all the new, fancy Kitchenaid appliances we bought when we renovated the house 5 years ago. Heck, the dishwasher required a new circuit board after trying to start it the first time! The service tech suggested we buy an extended warranty as the brain for our induction range was upwards of $1,000 for the part plus labour.

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Been nursing along some old Kenmore/Whirlpool sets for years.
I used to get monthly Engineering periodicals, and remember an editorial in one from about 20 years ago that discussed designed obsolescence and how the newer products were not made to last.
Of course another month there was an editorial about the price of medicine, or rather Doctors fees and why didn't doctors still drive Buick's and Oldsmobile's rather than BMW's and Mercedes, but that's another story
 
Just a week or so ago, my wife and I were talking about how older equipment was so well built and seemed to last forever. We were chatting about our Maytag washer and dryer that are now almost 35 years old. They have no bells or whistles snd are just workhorses. Over the life of ownership, we have never had to call a repair person and on the washer, I replaced one hose about 5 years ago. Then last week my wife says there’s water on the floor in the basement. I went to check and go figure, old faithful has sprung a leak. Like most things, I tear into right away and see the source of the water, but can’t figure out why it’s happening.

Turns out, even back then, engineers were concerned about contamination of fresh water supply so they put in an anti back flow device to make sure dirty laundry water doesn’t get sucked back into the water supply. What they did was shoot the water into an open air basket which in turn travelled via a hose to fill the wash drum. For some reason, water was backing up and running out of the basket.

Further investigation found there’s a restrictor device inside the supply hose. This gizmo had become bloated and deformed over years of use and was the culprit for the water leak. I searched parts listings and hard to believe but you can still buy most parts for the machine directly from Maytag! I kept searching and wouldn’t you know it - the piece I was looking for is available from the Chinese on Amazon! Several days later the part is installed and all is well. I’ve attached a photo of the original and replacement.

Reason for posting - a testament to good old equipment, made when quality meant something. I cringe to think about his short the life cycle will be on all the new, fancy Kitchenaid appliances we bought when we renovated the house 5 years ago. Heck, the dishwasher required a new circuit board after trying to start it the first time! The service tech suggested we buy an extended warranty as the brain for our induction range was upwards of $1,000 for the part plus labour.

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I am always infuriated by the idea that a household appliance has a circuit board, which is invariably one of the weak links. I get the idea of technology improving quality of life (or so I'm being asked to believe), but telling me my recent fridge has to be replaced because its circuit board has failed and it is unserviceable and ... wait for it ... NLA to boot and if it were available, it costs twice what the machine is worth! (maybe this should be in "Can I Rant?")
 
I’m generally pretty fearless when it comes to repairing anything other than electronics - that’s alien technology to me. At my cottage neighbours funeral this past winter, I met some of the deceased’s friends. When I told them we have the cottage next door they immediately said, oh you’re the guy that can fix anything. I never realized I had that reputation. The elderly neighbours would usually have a to do list for me each year, including anything from fixing a boat motor to repairing the bbq. I was always happy to do that for them.
 
Just a week or so ago, my wife and I were talking about how older equipment was so well built and seemed to last forever. We were chatting about our Maytag washer and dryer that are now almost 35 years old. They have no bells or whistles snd are just workhorses. Over the life of ownership, we have never had to call a repair person and on the washer, I replaced one hose about 5 years ago. Then last week my wife says there’s water on the floor in the basement. I went to check and go figure, old faithful has sprung a leak. Like most things, I tear into right away and see the source of the water, but can’t figure out why it’s happening.

Turns out, even back then, engineers were concerned about contamination of fresh water supply so they put in an anti back flow device to make sure dirty laundry water doesn’t get sucked back into the water supply. What they did was shoot the water into an open air basket which in turn travelled via a hose to fill the wash drum. For some reason, water was backing up and running out of the basket.

Further investigation found there’s a restrictor device inside the supply hose. This gizmo had become bloated and deformed over years of use and was the culprit for the water leak. I searched parts listings and hard to believe but you can still buy most parts for the machine directly from Maytag! I kept searching and wouldn’t you know it - the piece I was looking for is available from the Chinese on Amazon! Several days later the part is installed and all is well. I’ve attached a photo of the original and replacement.

Reason for posting - a testament to good old equipment, made when quality meant something. I cringe to think about his short the life cycle will be on all the new, fancy Kitchenaid appliances we bought when we renovated the house 5 years ago. Heck, the dishwasher required a new circuit board after trying to start it the first time! The service tech suggested we buy an extended warranty as the brain for our induction range was upwards of $1,000 for the part plus labour.

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Good move to fix your reliable appliance and props for the troubleshooting efforts!
 
Now why the f_ _ k would I want my phone talking to my stove??? (...and I'm a cook and therefore a full-time stove user). The one thing that I do see significant value in is having my thermostat and a/c controls monitored and controlled from my phone.
I really have no idea why it's needed
I think you can use your phone to preheat it to set temps ?
Your in the damn kitchen anyway, our old dying oven just beeps and hey your there
 
I am always infuriated by the idea that a household appliance has a circuit board, which is invariably one of the weak links. I get the idea of technology improving quality of life (or so I'm being asked to believe), but telling me my recent fridge has to be replaced because its circuit board has failed and it is unserviceable and ... wait for it ... NLA to boot and if it were available, it costs twice what the machine is worth! (maybe this should be in "Can I Rant?")
Our washer and dryer have no electronics, just mechanical timers and on the washer, a solenoid to tire the water on and off. I think the dryer is supposed to have a moisture sensor in the circuit but I’m not so sure about that. I think most of the drying cycle is time related only.
 
I traded the reliable 40 year GE laundry pair for lower water use front loaders 10 years ago. I went in and "fixed" a circuit board push button made of rapidly degrading plastic with JB weld, that was two years ago.
:twocents: No matter the device I always figure it's worth it to disassemble and take a look to see if there's a fixable problem before replacing it. If nothing else some of the components can then be put in the recycle bin. A dead breadmaker Allison really liked, got a new (chinese) drive belt last winter and I get yummy warm bread again. :love:
 
I am always infuriated by the idea that a household appliance has a circuit board, which is invariably one of the weak links. I get the idea of technology improving quality of life (or so I'm being asked to believe), but telling me my recent fridge has to be replaced because its circuit board has failed and it is unserviceable and ... wait for it ... NLA to boot and if it were available, it costs twice what the machine is worth! (maybe this should be in "Can I Rant?")
Bbbbbut don't you see? That new eco friendly unit saves you 3 pennies per wash cycle, and you're saving the world! Of course we won't talk about how much energy and raw material, not to mention money that will be used in 5-7 years when it is scrapped and replaced.
 
I live in a 5 year old house. I just installed the 3rd water heater! All of the GE kitchen appliances are falling apart. We are not abusing the stuff. There’s only the two of us. The GE washer and dryer are 20 years old. The dryer hasn’t burped. I’ve replaced only a plastic knob. I have repaired the washing machine a few times, but at no great expense as I fix it myself.
My cars are old. They’ll stay that way. There seems to be no such thing as durable goods anymore. As far as I can tell, if it’s new, it’s already junk.
 
I live in a 5 year old house. I just installed the 3rd water heater! All of the GE kitchen appliances are falling apart. We are not abusing the stuff. There’s only the two of us. The GE washer and dryer are 20 years old. The dryer hasn’t burped. I’ve replaced only a plastic knob. I have repaired the washing machine a few times, but at no great expense as I fix it myself.
My cars are old. They’ll stay that way. There seems to be no such thing as durable goods anymore. As far as I can tell, if it’s new, it’s already junk.
.....And appliance park was such a big deal when GE opened it in Louisville
 
I just cleaned a Morton water softener. The installation and maintenance manual was great with pictures and step by step instructions and the proper orientation of all of the parts.......except the screen that was the real problem that was clogged. Right under these parts was a 1/4" screen that was totally clogged. No picture or mention of this screen in the manual and this little screen was hard to see and probably the reason for most peoples problems with this water softener. The deletion of this screen in the manual just had to be intentional, more service calls and unit sales for them.
 
Why do we have "Water Saver" technology? I don't need or want "Water Saver" I live in one of the largest fresh water aquifers in the world. All water I use returns to that aquifer. I want a dishwasher, clothes washer, shower head, kitchen faucet, toilet that delivers the goods, each for obvious reasons.
For the rant thread. A new washing machine costs a fortune and won’t even get your clothes wet!
 
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