pago cruiser
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I'll let y'all figure it out first...
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pago cruiser
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Nope.
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Hi pago,
wrongo! The accurate answer is:- "Yes it does but no it ain't."
What it also looks like is someone demonstrating his computer mill set-up skills.
Pity about the chisel marks in the bearing, hopefully it's a slave and the finished product will have a good one?
Perhaps a scale rule next to the mystery piece would be too much of a clue?
My guess would be the body of a semi-rotary hydraulic steering damper.
I think it may be a universal round tuit. The extra holes allow it to be mounted on many different models of bikes. A square tuit can sometimes be used, but this one should be a big seller, because of the superior design.
It is a filler neck adapter for blinker fluid - it enables you to use Japanese blinker fluid in a BMW.
Those wacky Germans - always doing their own thing....
Those wacky Germans - always doing their own thing....
funky
XS650 Junkie
I think its a jelly mould 
its a spacer for the back wheel sprocket side . this is my serious answer
its a spacer for the back wheel sprocket side . this is my serious answer
Hi ret'dgent.,I think it may be a universal round tuit. The extra holes allow it to be mounted on many different models of bikes. A square tuit can sometimes be used, but this one should be a big seller, because of the superior design.
well, I dunno, it may be mounted sqaretuit even if it's shape makes it a roundtuit but perhaps all them holes may stop it being uptuit?
Heck I'll play.....Funky's answer and to run a 19" mag on the rear.......I think its a jelly mould
pago cruiser
XS650 Addict
Lotsa smart folks on here... obviously!
Well, most are... kinda correct.
The correct specific answer is ...XS1100 wheel adapter. Those little lobes were the hint. Although the universal roundtuit (or the popular square version) was close.
This design keeps the XS1100 cush rubbers and bearings, and I added a stock XS650 rear bearing to the spacer. A shame the gomer before me beat the cr@p out of the bearing reducer/insert - but it fits perfect.
I hope to get it fitted this weekend.
Well, most are... kinda correct.
The correct specific answer is ...XS1100 wheel adapter. Those little lobes were the hint. Although the universal roundtuit (or the popular square version) was close.
This design keeps the XS1100 cush rubbers and bearings, and I added a stock XS650 rear bearing to the spacer. A shame the gomer before me beat the cr@p out of the bearing reducer/insert - but it fits perfect.
I hope to get it fitted this weekend.
That looks really cool Pago - very nice work indeed!
.....but I still think it could be used to defeat BMWs evil attempt at achieving a monopoly on selling blinker fluid to their bike owners.....
.....but I still think it could be used to defeat BMWs evil attempt at achieving a monopoly on selling blinker fluid to their bike owners.....
pago cruiser
XS650 Addict
Can't really take all the credit. I have a friend who runs a small NC machine shop. He makes really cool stuff, almost all bikes or hot rods or military pieces. He was doing stuff for Eric Buell's racers (remember that guy?) before the fall. Several Victory Motorcycle parts for the Cop conversions. Would you believe a sidestand on EACH side of the bike? Hm: now that I think about that, I see a pattern; not sure what it means though...
I came up with the concept, and he figures out how to make it work. The key was locking the adapter to the splined piece, which prevents sprocket torsion from trying to twist the adapter off. We used Class 12.9 M10 bolts to lock the package together, replacing the short, pressed-in bolts that held the spline fitting to the wheel. I was bummed because I could not find M10/12.9 is anything other than black oxide. "No sweat" said Rob. Just took them over to his friend the plater, and the next day they were yellow zinc! Also his idea to use similar bolts threaded in from the back side for sprocket mounts; there is a solid 1"+ bolt shank thread into the adapter. The reason they are still long is that I don't want to cut until I verify alignment. Then I'll need to get re-plated.
Below is a pic of the wheel with the cush drives visible. The stock spline actually provides support for the bearing boss, which is only about 3/16" thick; so we wanted to make the adapter be able to keep as much of the stock hardware as possible.
That's a stock 34T sprocket, with no problems for clearance - looks like it could even accept a 32 if someone wanted.
If anyone is interested, he is open to making some more. I do not know what the site policy is for defacto "shilling"... but I have no financial interests in any of this. PM me if anyone is interested I guess. This is specifically for an XS1100, with a 17x2.5 wheel. I went with the 17 to provide lots of tire options. Other wheel sizes may be the same isolation/bolt pattern configuration, but I cannot say.
I came up with the concept, and he figures out how to make it work. The key was locking the adapter to the splined piece, which prevents sprocket torsion from trying to twist the adapter off. We used Class 12.9 M10 bolts to lock the package together, replacing the short, pressed-in bolts that held the spline fitting to the wheel. I was bummed because I could not find M10/12.9 is anything other than black oxide. "No sweat" said Rob. Just took them over to his friend the plater, and the next day they were yellow zinc! Also his idea to use similar bolts threaded in from the back side for sprocket mounts; there is a solid 1"+ bolt shank thread into the adapter. The reason they are still long is that I don't want to cut until I verify alignment. Then I'll need to get re-plated.
Below is a pic of the wheel with the cush drives visible. The stock spline actually provides support for the bearing boss, which is only about 3/16" thick; so we wanted to make the adapter be able to keep as much of the stock hardware as possible.
That's a stock 34T sprocket, with no problems for clearance - looks like it could even accept a 32 if someone wanted.
If anyone is interested, he is open to making some more. I do not know what the site policy is for defacto "shilling"... but I have no financial interests in any of this. PM me if anyone is interested I guess. This is specifically for an XS1100, with a 17x2.5 wheel. I went with the 17 to provide lots of tire options. Other wheel sizes may be the same isolation/bolt pattern configuration, but I cannot say.
Hi pago,
OK, it converts the 17" XS1100 shaftie rear wheel to chain drive so you can run a 17" rear tire on your XS650.
I'd advise that you check out all of the wheel's bearings.
There's one of them that nobody makes any more so if it's screwed, so are you.
OK, it converts the 17" XS1100 shaftie rear wheel to chain drive so you can run a 17" rear tire on your XS650.
I'd advise that you check out all of the wheel's bearings.
There's one of them that nobody makes any more so if it's screwed, so are you.
pago cruiser
XS650 Addict
Yep, found that out early in the planning stages -but thanks for the heads up. Would not be the first time I have made a tactical error... but I try really hard to not repeat the same ones... 
I found the hard-to-find-one (a weird Needle bearing, NTN NA5904) NOS on ebay a few months ago. It's really a piece of work, almost jewel like in appearance; almost like a swingarm needle bearing. Since then I have found a couple other sites selling them as well. As a plan B, I also found a thread on an XS1100 site using a pair of "standard" bearings in lieu of the NTN. It was about $70 IIRC, while the stock bearing was about $50.
While the Inet has made chasing parts way easier than in the past, sometimes a lot of the "old" problem threads have not been updated - so the old problems remain if the folks have gone onto other interests.
I found the hard-to-find-one (a weird Needle bearing, NTN NA5904) NOS on ebay a few months ago. It's really a piece of work, almost jewel like in appearance; almost like a swingarm needle bearing. Since then I have found a couple other sites selling them as well. As a plan B, I also found a thread on an XS1100 site using a pair of "standard" bearings in lieu of the NTN. It was about $70 IIRC, while the stock bearing was about $50.
While the Inet has made chasing parts way easier than in the past, sometimes a lot of the "old" problem threads have not been updated - so the old problems remain if the folks have gone onto other interests.
Hi pago,
sure I would because I've seen them.
My buddy's Vincent Black Shadow had dual sidestands as a stock item.
Not only could you lean the bike to whichever side was more suitable, you could hinge both of them down vertically
to lift the front wheel off the ground without having to use a jack.
...but first you get back to that alternator so you can ride to that show tomorrow young man!!!
Something along those lines that you could remove the drum brake plate out of an XS650 spoke rear wheel, bolt in the adapter and bolt a disc brake rotor onto the adapter might sell. Especially if the rotor lined up with the stock XS650 caliper.
If reasonable cost I might want one.
A lot of people have tried many ways to adapt spoke disc brake wheels to the XS650. Most are hard to do.
An easy to install adapter sounds like a good idea.
Leo
If reasonable cost I might want one.
A lot of people have tried many ways to adapt spoke disc brake wheels to the XS650. Most are hard to do.
An easy to install adapter sounds like a good idea.
Leo
