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75XSFLORIDA · Jun 5, 2020

Ok. So im getting alot of feedback from Facebook groups about my front wheel morris mag set up. People say the speedo housing isnt in the right place but I believe it is! The axle butts right up again it holding it tight in place once axle nut is tight!! They also say the HOLE at the end of the axle is a little to far inside the tube but when you push axle in, thats where axle stops which is right at the speedo housing! If you slide it out some, you then have the tapered part of the axle showing and therefore its not holding speedo housing in place!! It must be pushed in that far. You will see in one pic where its not pushed in far enough and the other pic where its pushed in all the way until it butts up against the speedo. Also the little lip on the speedo housing DOES catch the inner fork tube lip so yes it doesnt move at all. Looks like it should be flush with fork tube but that’s impossible as brake caliper is fixed and cant move wheel over.
Wheel is also centered so the spacers are accurate too. Check pics out and let me know your thoughts.

650Skull · Jun 5, 2020

For starters it not an XS650 Wheel.............I will check some earlier threads to see what has been done.............

The brake rotor is on the left, although there is provision for that usually single disc front brake systems are on the right. Not that this should make any difference.

The spacer on the right side is wrong going by XS650 spacers.

Yea, the hole on the axle does look to be in slightly. ..........I guess the Caliper fitment on the rotor is going to dictate where the fork is in relation to the hub.

Dirty pic from a 74, i should of, have not. used the virus lockdown to do much to.

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 5, 2020

This is a Morris mag buddy. Correct, it is not an XS wheel. These were aftermarket upgrades back then thats why you CANNOT go by microfiche or anything like that cause thats all for the spoked stuff. See pic
The reason the brake rotor is on the left is because the speedo tab on the inner fork tube is on the left. If you put it on the right there will be no where to mount the speedo housing. It’s either both rotors or the left side. No other option.
Your pic is of a spoke wheel. Totally different. Cannot compare that setup to mine.
If the hole were any farther out and not in like it is, the thick part of the axle would not BUMP up against the speedo housing. Look at the pics. They explain it all. Lol. Not sure why everyone says this is incorrect. Theres no other way. If so please tell me.

650Skull · Jun 5, 2020

Being on the web it is important to give all relevant information so the answers given are relevant..........

XS650's Spoke wheels....mag wheels......use the same spacers for the front wheel, no difference so the pic is relevant..............if the wheel is after market all bets are off so it cannot be compared to an XS650 set up..........The advice from facebook is about XS650 wheels...........and they are right

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 5, 2020

I did give all info. What do you mean? First sentence says Morris mag....lol...and actually they arent right because most know they are Morris mags and still insisting the speedo housing been flush with the inner tube which is not possible....the rotor is attached to the wheel as youre aware, so how would it be possible to move the wheel over to the left so speedo bumps up against inner fork tube?? Remeber the rotor is inside the caliper too so the wheel aint movin man! Lol. See what i mean. These guys dont get it.
So even still tell me your opinion....aftermarket or not, what could be different about this setup?? Lets hear your thoughts.

650Skull · Jun 5, 2020

Thanks for the info on morris mags.....in post #3......might have been more helpful in post #1............

650Skull said:
Yea, the hole on the axle does look to be in slightly. ..........I guess the Caliper fitment on the rotor is going to dictate where the fork is in relation to the hub.

reread my last sentence.........This is a tell..........looking at one of your pics the speedo drive sits inside the rotor........removed rest of post.....lol

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 5, 2020

It was in POST ONE!!!! It clearly says “my front wheel morris mag set up”....read slower buddy! Lol
I know exactly what i was saying in my last message when i said “first sentence says Morris mag.... first sentence of FIRST post!
Let me know when ya find it

650Skull · Jun 5, 2020

Buddy........lol........Sorry i should have done an internet search.........just maybe i would have found the information that is in post #3....

Good luck.........

GLJ · Jun 6, 2020

If you have the wheel centered in the forks and the rotor is centered in the caliper that's good. Since it is not a stock wheel the axle may not sit exactly like normal. Something doesn't add up. If the axle is into the left fork tube farther than normal it should stick out the castle nut farther than normal. Yet I don't see any threads at all. That would concern me. Did you put the mags on the bike or did you buy it that way?

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 6, 2020

Bought that way.
Was done 40 yrs ago. I’m not necessarily sure the actual stick out further.
What if it’s not a stock axle?? then there wouldn’t be more threads on the Nut side....just sayin man!
All I know is the wheel is centered between the two forks and also between the two brake pads in the caliper.

GLJ · Jun 6, 2020

75XSFLORIDA said:
What if it’s not a stock axle?? then there wouldn’t be more threads on the Nut side

I'm thinking it's not the stock axle. With the left side of the axle in farther the right side should stick out farther. If the hole is through the nut far enough to get a cotter pin in you should be good. If you can't get a cotter pin in it's not really safe to ride. IMHO

75XSFLORIDA said:
People say the speedo housing isnt in the right place

Looks to me to be in the only place it can be.
I've never seen a Morris mag on a 650. If you can find another 650 that has one on it would be interesting to compare it with yours. Aftermarket parts are not always a direct replacement. Many time modifications are necessary.
Good Luck.

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 6, 2020

GLJ said:
I'm thinking it's not the stock axle. With the left side of the axle in farther the right side should stick out farther. If the hole is through the nut far enough to get a cotter pin in you should be good. If you can't get a cotter pin in it's not really safe to ride. IMHO

Looks to me to be in the only place it can be.
I've never seen a Morris mag on a 650. If you can find another 650 that has one on it would be interesting to compare it with yours. Aftermarket parts are not always a direct replacement. Many time modifications are necessary.
Good Luck.

Oh yea of course i can get a cotter pin in. One was there. I can get TWO pins in. Thats what im saying safety isnt the issue at all. Only posted this to see what people said about the setup

GLJ · Jun 6, 2020

It's a good looking wheel. I don't have a problem with where the hole in the axle is. It's not in the right space if it was a stock Yamaha wheel. It's an aftermarket wheel so it needs to be where it works out.

75XSFLORIDA · Jun 6, 2020

Yep. Thanks brother

MrBultaco · Jun 6, 2020

Kawasaki used Morris Mag aluminum wheels in the 70's on their GPZs and some others. I thought they stamped makes on them. :umm:

BTW, it's a great change for any bike.

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