Ignition Switch Location - Thoughts - and am I not thinking of anything?

[mattylmbr]

Finally getting into the wiring on my project, and have decided to abandon the entire motogadget M unit and just go old school kick only. Other priorities on the project right now and can always deal with that later if I feel like it

Anyway - thinking of mounting the ignition switch in my rear pan under the cafe hump, with the key sticking down underneath. It is really the only 'hidden' option I have with my setup without making a mount outside of the pan and having it be visible.

First pic shows a location in the pan from top view where it would go (red arrow points to location - don't mind the other ignition in the photo). Second and third pics show a hypothetical side view of where the key would be put in and how far it would stick down.

It is 6+ inches higher than the tire, and far offset. The tire hitting would not be an issue.

Thoughts on location?

And any possible issues I am not thinking of I may have putting it there?

Thanks in advance.

 

[nj1639]

As long as you have a kill switch at the right/ throttle position you can put the ignition switch in any inconvenient to reach spot you want......lol

 

[mattylmbr]

As long as you have a kill switch at the right/ throttle position you can put the ignition switch in any inconvenient to reach spot you want......lol

Believe it or not - the former owner had NO kill switch on it - and the key in a harder to reach spot. Wondering if I can integrate the on/off/kill switch on the stock Yamaha R6 controls I have on the bike?

And appreciate the feedback.

 

[Moabite]

Too much dirt and grime hit it maybe...and if the key falls out...just first thoughts...always have handlebar kill switch for emergency kill...

 

[gggGary]

Yes key falling out when moving it, while off. It'll happen in some muddy field at 3AM and you won't realize it til the next morning.

 

[mattylmbr]

Yes key falling out when moving it, while off. It'll happen in some muddy field at 3AM and you won't realize it til the next morning.

While on - technically - key won't come out.

While off - correct - if the ignition is on the 'off' position the tumblers won't hold it in like they will in the 'on' position. Good thought though. Not a deterrent - yet.

 

[Moabite]

While on - technically - key won't come out.

While off - correct - if the ignition is on the 'off' position the tumblers won't hold it in like they will in the 'on' position. Good thought though. Not a deterrent - yet.

...vibration can be a gremlin's friend... that key shaking may one time close and fall out...stranger things have happened...

 

[nj1639]

Relocated mine to where the reflector mounted under the tank, right side. Had three sets of keys to the keychain, all my 650's.
Imagine my surprise when I went to turn her off at the gas station to fill up after a twenty mile country run and the keys were......gone. lol
I did get pretty good at pulling lock cylinders though.

 

[mattylmbr]

Relocated mine to where the reflector mounted under the tank, right side. Had three sets of keys to the keychain, all my 650's.
Imagine my surprise when I went to turn her off at the gas station to fill up after a twenty mile country run and the keys were......gone. lol
I did get pretty good at pulling lock cylinders though.

That is pretty solid. So, you are saying if I go with this location, carry an extra key? Haha.

Side note - did just get the kill switch on the R6 controls working with my setup - so stoked on that.

 

[mattylmbr]

Update - went with it. See if I have issues down the road. ‍

 

[arcticXS]

I think I see a Motogadget M-Lock in your future......(RFID type switch plus relay)
Your ignition lock location is one of the worst I've seen so far, and I'm 55......
I guess you could make it slightly worse by mounting it under the engine, close to an exhaust pipe. Adding burn hazard to its features.......

 

[mattylmbr]

I think I see a Motogadget M-Lock in your future......(RFID type switch plus relay)
Your ignition lock location is one of the worst I've seen so far, and I'm 55......
I guess you could make it slightly worse by mounting it under the engine, close to an exhaust pipe. Adding burn hazard to its features.......

@arcticXS that was a great response and feedback. Laughing my ass off right now.

That being said - would an M - lock work in a battery less kick only situation?

 

[arcticXS]

@arcticXS that was a great response and feedback. Laughing my ass off right now.

That being said - would an M - lock work in a battery less kick only situation?

No, I think it requires a battery. But a really small non-lead battery should be enough. On my RD350 with powerdynamo cdi and kick only, I use a Super B 2600 battery. It weighs exactly 1 pound/450g and is pretty flat. But is still really powerful, and has no problems cranking an electric start Suzuki 125 4 stroke single with an 11:1 Wiseco 143 cc big bore piston installed. I have used 2 different batteries from Super B for many years, in 4 different bikes. In my XS, I have a Super B 5200, which I also have used in my Ducati 600 with 680 cc hi comp pistons before. Plenty of cranking power, and weighs just 2 pounds.