need help id ing a part. figuring out wiring and which way to go

[yeahyo]

built a few hondas before but new to the xs650. just wondering if i could get sone help. not sure whate part this is and do i need it. probally gona make a simplified harness if i can. its an '84

 

[rebel542]

Starter cut out relay. Prevents starter from engaging while engine is running. May have something to do with headlight function. Not sure about that one.

 

[fredintoon]

built a few hondas before but new to the xs650. just wondering if i could get sone help. not sure whate part this is and do i need it. probally gona make a simplified harness if i can. its an '84

Hi yeahyo and welcome,
that's the safety relay. The 2 tin humps each have a relay inside. When the alternator starts charging one of them opens to stop you running the starter and the other one closes to turn the headlight on.
And yes you need it.
Good luck simplifying the harness, the XS650 insists on having every mystery module it's got in order to run nice. Thick as a donkey's dick, that main harness, eh?
And my BSA single copes with 8 wires! (OK, 11 if you want signals)

 

[yeahyo]

if i get rid of the starter is it an option to eliminate it? thanks for the help

 

[gggGary]

Yes, check the simplified wiring diagrams in tech. If you are leaving "stockville" toss that choss.

 

[fredintoon]

if i get rid of the starter is it an option to eliminate it? thanks for the help

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Hi yeahyo,
what Gary sez.
Note that the module's other function is to turn the headlight on.
With the relay gone the headlight will turn on with the ignition unless you add an on/off switch.
Also note that pulling the XS650 starter motor leaves a big hole for the oil to fall out of.
MikesXS sells (or used to sell) a fancy plug to cork up the hole.

 

[yeahyo]

cool thanks. probally ditch it. the wiring is a mess from someone before me so might tear it all out

 

[yeahyo]

heres what im dealing with. haha

any one wired up a later model? mines an 84. if so what diagram did you use?

 

[yeahyo]

just need to figure out the wiring on the ignition and i think i should have all the info i need to get a good start on it. there is three wires off the black oval shape(i think this is the vignition. lol) black orange and grey. once i figure this out i should be well on my way

 

[gggGary]

This one seems popular

pick up coil is on the bottom right

black = black and white
orange - red white
gray = green white




pick up pickup pick ups wire color colors TCI wiring
picture gggGary

 

[yeahyo]

is the ignitor unit a black rectangle box located by the coil? ive noticed a few of the simplified diagrams dont have it in them

 

[yeahyo]

whats the unnamed box in the diagram between the alt and rec/reg

 

[yeahyo]

haha. found the ignition unit in a random box of shit i got with the bike. what a mess

 

[gggGary]

whats the unnamed box in the diagram between the alt and rec/reg

Those are the alternator brushes that sit on the stator, left-center in your pic.

 

[yeahyo]

Thanks. Just had to stand back and take a look.got a good start on it last night. Not to bad once you look at it