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79 Special II RestoCustom "Doomy"

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Machine, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. mrtwowheel

    mrtwowheel Honda Etched On Brain Top Contributor

    Cool, let's see a picture with the seat and lights on there.:popcorn:
     
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  2. DB90

    DB90 XS650 Addict

    Dang! I don't know how I missed this thread. I'm digging it! Very detailed. Can't wait to see how that seat looks! :bike: It was nice to meet you man!
     
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  3. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Thanks DB90 , the cafe seat is good as new to work with.
    Local sourcing again was fun but I gotta admit , the 150 mile round trip up the Interstate of truck (BIG RIGS) traffic in a full on west coast rain & wind storm at night was frightening! very crowded and fast traffic..
    The seat looks the right shape for this bike and will be custom mounted very firmly somehow soon. It's just a little shorter than I imagined but hey , it's the first one of these to me. Its gonna be good
    -RT
     

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  4. DB90

    DB90 XS650 Addict

    Nice! Looks good! I believe my back hoop had been shortened by 2 or so inches because it hugged the seat a bit closer. Pretty easy to do if that gap bothers you. Glad you made it home safe! Stormy nightime i5 trips can be quite sketchy sometimes! Haha
     
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  5. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Think I'll leave the hoop out there for the fender mount. There will be some chrome fender space back there to shine nicely.
    :cool:
    Yes , Interstate I-5 up to Seattle is a fast & busy one. That rain & wind & water had my Ford shorty skipping like a flat rock
    :yikes:
    Lol..
     
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  6. Very much a bratstyle look.:rock:

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  7. Norton7d

    Norton7d XS650 Addict

    So cupped washers help the XS handlebar bushing slop problem?
    What years had the cupped washers?
    Can be used on earlier models to improve?
    Searched EBAY, found none.

    Thanks
     
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  8. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

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    The "cupped shape" washers are found on later Specials. They are the top washers. The thru hole diameter is big to slide up the bar riser shank. When using these cupped washers also on the bottom , which surrounds and squeezes the bottom rubber mount bushing edges better , an additional thin small washer under the nut which has an appropriate thru diameter for the thread major diameter is useful. That will tell you just how tight to squeeze those bushings both top and bottom together.. Clean and dry. No grease there. Perhaps sticky YamaBond even.
    These bars are Very tight and firm! Which is necessary for any aggressive riding
    :cool:
     
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  9. Norton7d

    Norton7d XS650 Addict

    How does the washer, tell one how tight is necessary?

    "That will tell you just how tight to squeeze those bushings both top and bottom together."
     
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  10. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

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    Look under here at where this thin washer was added under the nut and lock washer.
    :rolleyes:
    That washer is tight on the thread major and will not slide further up the mount shank which is bigger in diameter. If you "feel" when that washer contacts, that is where you stop tightening. The spring clip will now fit the cross hole too ;)
     
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  11. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    The washer really doesn't tell you anything. Basically, you just tighten up the nut until it runs out of threads. If the bar mounts are still loose, some shim washers can be added on top or between the two rubber cups .....

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  12. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    Diagram example shows flat washers. Items 20 & 22 the lower washers (22) do have a smaller thru hole which I believe bottoms or stops ?
    If you use top washers , tho the cupped variety , both top and bottom , the bottom washer will tighten as far as you like compressing the rubber. Utilizing the cupped shaped washers better contains and squeezes the rubber dampers and my added washer felt like it bottomed as the dampers were squeezed. ?
    Gave a good location to stop anyways..
     
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  13. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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    The bottom washers won't go as far as you like, only until the threads on the stud run out.
     
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  14. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    I don't have even one parts fische or schematic. I just find what really works well and looks great by hands on trial and error
    -R:thumbsup:
    -now at work my choices are more exact and particular and controlled by too many precise factors.
    On my XS's I play in "loose" and creative fun ways.
     

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  15. Norton7d

    Norton7d XS650 Addict

    I completely understand now the premise and purpose of the small washer, it's a limiter of some sort.
    Are these washers available in any other form, non Yamaha and readily available?
    Probably not since the lower washer requires that recessed area to sit around the fork tube
     
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  16. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

    That's it. See the cup shaped now bottom washer which will slide fit over the shank diameter squishes the rubber damper that one thick washer thickness more than stock. The dampers are now more rigidly held compressed just that much more. Big difference in feel
    :)
     
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  17. Norton7d

    Norton7d XS650 Addict

    So, who is goimg to sell me some ised cupped washers?
     
  18. Machine

    Machine Race the wind Top Contributor

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    Last extra set I have is going to my 78E .. sorry Norton 7d
     
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  19. 5twins

    5twins XS650 Guru Top Contributor

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  20. Jim

    Jim Beyond the edge, is the unknown. Here be Dragons XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    PM me your address and I'll send ya a couple.

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