Anyone know how to obtain a title?

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As the title states. I found a local xs650 for $300 in decent shape to build a bobber for my brother but it doesn't come with a title. Anyone know the process or a service to get one? I'm in Virginia if that makes a difference, thanks.
 
It really depends on the laws of the state your in, i know here in C.T. you dont even need one over a certain amount of year's old. All they require is that you have a bill of sale containing year, make, model, vin, yours and the sellers names and the most recent registration from the previous owner and they'll register it for ya !!! (And lucky me never got the last registration and cant get ahold of the p,o so ill be good n screwed when i'm done building mine yay fer me)
 
Anyone selling a neck with a title?

A neck with a title will cost you $100 or more. Then you have to put everything in a jig in order to align and graft it onto your existing frame or pay someone else to do it if you are not an experienced welder and that can easily run you another $100. If your local DMV wont help you obtain a title, I agree with Petes Ponies, contact a title company that will get you a title usually from a state that has very lax title laws and for about $200 you will recieve a clean clear title from that state that you can now use to register your bike legally in your state. In NY if a cop stops you and suspects you changed vin # or welded in a replacement neck he will take your bike and you will play hell getting it back....
 
This is what I found for you state. I would call the regional DMV office in your area and ask they shoul be able to tell what the process is> It seems really complicated in Virginia pretty easy in Texas
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The exact process for titling that barn find in your name in the Commonwealth of Virginia depends on what the story is with the vehicle in question. But the process is free (except for standard fees and taxes), and does not require anything special except knowledge of your bike and the services of a notary public.

You will always need this form to title any vehicle....

VSA 17a Application for Registration:


Use this form to apply for the registration of your vehicle.
http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/pdf/vsa17a.pdf

If the person who sold you your scooter didn't give you a title then you may be required to take one or more of the following forms to the DMV:


CRD 01: Request for Vehicle Information by a Prospective Purchaser

This is the form you need to check whether the bike you have purchased or are considering purchasing isn't stolen.
http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/pdf/crd01.pdf

SUT 1 (A)Suppl. Info. for Procurement of Title (B) Seller's Statement...

A vehicle seller and the buyer use this form to serve as a formal billof sale when a vehicle has been purchased or sold with a questionable sales price.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/sut1.pdf

SUT 1A Affidavit for Procurement of Title

Use this form for vehicles less than 5 years old, for which the customer disputes the NADA Trade-in value.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/sut1a.pdf

VSA 10 B Antique License Plate Applicant Certification


Owners of antique motor vehicles, antique trailers and antique motorcycles use this form to certify compliancewith Code of Virginia requirements for use of antique plates.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa10b.pdf

VSA 12 Affidavit in Lieu of Title Certificate

Use this form to file an affidavit with DMV certifying that the certificate of title is not in the applicant's possession when registering a motorvehicle, trailer or semi-trailer without a certificate of title.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa12.pdf

VSA 14 I Registration Information Sheet

Use this information to complete the Application for Registration, VSA14.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa14i.pdf

VSA 24 Statement of Authority to Assign Title

Adult legal heirs use this form to obtain a title for a deceased person's vehicle.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa24.pdf

VSA 40 Abandoned Motor Vehicles

Use this form is to record compliance with the Abandoned Motor VehicleAct.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa40.pdf

VSA 41 Mechanics' or Storage Lien Title Application

Use this application to request vehicle information and to apply for atitle or non-repairable certificate as a result of a mechanic's or storage lien, as provided in VA Code §43-32, 43-33, and 43-34.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa41.pdf

VSA 56 Application for Salvage Certificate


Use this form to apply for a salvage certificate.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa56.pdfa>

VSA 57 Application for Non-Repairable Certificate

Use this form to apply for a no fee non-repairable certificate.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa57.pdf

VSA 59 Rebuilt Salvage Vehicle Disclosure Statement

Use this form to provide brand information when selling a rebuilt vehicle.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa59.pdf

VSA 64 Required Evidence of Ownership

Use this form letter to return funds, evidence of ownership and/or additional information to DMV.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa64.pdf

VSA 69 Verification of Vehicle Identification Number

A DMV representative uses this form when inspecting a vehicle to verify that the vehicle identification number (VIN) entered on the form matches the VIN plate attached to the vehicle.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa69.pdf

VSA 70 Power of Attorney

A vehicle owner uses this form to appoint an individual power of attorney to sign for the owner when registering and/or transferring ownership of a motor vehicle.
http://www.dmvnow.com/webdoc/pdf/vsa70.pdf

The VSA 12 will be most commonly used form for a bike that was either never issued a title or for which the title is lost. However, make sure you note all of the forms as the VSA 12 may not be appropriate for all occurrences or may require additional forms to document the bike's history.

The form(s) you need should be fairly self-explanatory depending on how you obtained your bike (if you have a doubt about a form, take it along). Just complete the appropriate ones and take 'em down to the DMV with your completed VSA 14. They should issue you title and plates on the spot. However if they have a question, you should be able to walk out of the DMV with at least temp plates in hand and a referral to the DMV's Richmond headquarters for the actual title and hard plates.

For example, I once picked up and paid for a 1975 Vespa Primavera for a friend, since I actually paid for the bike (and was paid in full upon the delivery), I could give my friend a notarized Bill of Sales. He wrote the following story on his VSA 12 and signed it in front of a notary (all names and detail have been changed for privacy's sake).

Pursuant to Virginia Law, I (we), James Roe, duly sworn, make the following statements:
That I (we) submit this affidavit in support of my (our) application for a certificate of title for a 1975 Vespa Primavera VMA2T089045. <p>That I am (we are) unable to present a certificate of title with respect to the above described vehicle because the previous owner, John M. Stafford, of 123 My Street, Arlington VA 703-555-1234 did not have a title for the vehicle. Furthermore Mr. Stafford states that he purchased the bike from Michael Norris, 123 Old Back Road, Bowling Green, VA 804-555-2345 and Mr. Norris did not have a title. And Mr. Norris said that he purchased the bike again without a title from Express Tire & Auto, 18031 Blue Rd, Oak Glen, VA 804-555-9876 where apparently the bike had sat in the garage for over 20 years, unused and unregistered.

ANY WILLFUL MISINFORMATION GIVEN WITH FRAUDULENT INTENT MAY BE PUNISHABLE AS PROVIDED BY LAW.

That additional facts pertinent to my (our) acquisition of the above described vehicle are on Monday, August 16, 2004 I executed a CRD 01: Request for Vehicle Information by a Prospective Purchaser at the Arlington DMV office and no record of my vehicle was found.

That, if the Commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles issues a certificate of title pursuant to my (our) application for same, herein above described, I (we) hereby bind myself (ourselves), my (our) heirs, assigns and personal representatives to indemnify and save harmless the Commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles of the Commonwealth of Virginia, or his successor in office, individually and officially, for any loss or damage which may be asserted against him or which he may sustain as a result thereof.
 
Almost easier to just wait and buy one that comes with a title. I don't really want to chance it, although I would have all those extra spare parts.
 
12 million illegal aliens running free in the country and ya cant get a title for a 30 year old motorcycle....Only in America.
 
Yeah, ya like that? In VA it sounds like they do a search to find the owner, then they have an alotted time to claim it before it can be transfered over. My thing is: if I buy it and go through that process, the original owner can come take it from me even though I paid for it.

The person selling it claims that it was fixed at his shop and the customer never paid for it, so they've had it for a couple years now. Technically they could get a title for it but if it's been so long or they aren't willing then I'm screwed.
 
The person selling it claims that it was fixed at his shop and the customer never paid for it, so they've had it for a couple years now.

In every state there's something called a mechanic's lien, where the shop can keep the car until the work is paid for. If it's not paid for in a certain length of time, you have to assume the shop could sell it. If he can sell it, then there has to be a way for him to obtain a title, since the customer wouldn't have signed the title over to him.

I looked it up just now and the process is called a lien sale. If the shop doesn't go through that process, then technically the bike might be as good as stolen from the guy who had the work done.

So get the shop to perform a lien sale to you and you'll be the legal owner. A title should be either issued or easy to get at that point.
 
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