volcomskater77
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my journal is cracked off for the kickstart. what can i do about that? would it be worth welding and pressing in a roller bearing or something? or should i just get a new block?
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cracked kickstart journal
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I assume that you mean where the kick shaft fits in the case and not the cover. If it was the cover just swapping the bad for a good would be easy.
The hole in the case where the kickshaft fits is a bit more work. Being it's in the upper case you will need to totally tear the engine down to weldup and rebore a hole in the case.
At that point you would need to price the weld and rebore to cost of replaceing the cases. Yes cases, the upper and lower cases are a matched set. They are line bored for the crank and the transmission shafts. Then numbered. If you mis match the cases you might be ok. you might gets leaks and binding of the bearings, best to replace as a set.
I might just leave the kick shaft out and plug the hole in the cover and use the electric starter.
If your engine and frame number match and you absolutly have to have them match, then the weld and rebore is the way to go. I think that replcing the cases may be the cheaper way.
The hole in the case where the kickshaft fits is a bit more work. Being it's in the upper case you will need to totally tear the engine down to weldup and rebore a hole in the case.
At that point you would need to price the weld and rebore to cost of replaceing the cases. Yes cases, the upper and lower cases are a matched set. They are line bored for the crank and the transmission shafts. Then numbered. If you mis match the cases you might be ok. you might gets leaks and binding of the bearings, best to replace as a set.
I might just leave the kick shaft out and plug the hole in the cover and use the electric starter.
If your engine and frame number match and you absolutly have to have them match, then the weld and rebore is the way to go. I think that replcing the cases may be the cheaper way.
There are 650 cases starting at about $50 + S&H XS 400 cases $25 + S&H.
volcomskater77
XS650 Enthusiast
yeah its a 79 xs400 and the cases i see are all $60 with no S&H or like $35 with $40 S&H
TwoJugs
Excess XS
Are you talking about the steel kick shaft being broken or the aluminum side case where the kickshaft comes out of the motor? pictures?
I searched XS400 engine cases and found them starting about $25. Take a look. Even at $75 shipped will be cheaper than a weld and bore.
volcomskater77
XS650 Enthusiast
ill attach pics on tuesday but its the journal in the block. where did you find the block? attach a link?
Ebay item number 190342373954 80 Buy it now $24.99, item number 190342373443 78 buy it now $24.99. There are a 77 at $35 and a 79 at $45.
volcomskater77
XS650 Enthusiast
do you happen to know if there is any differences between a 79 and anything else?
this is my first bike so im learning as i go. thanks
this is my first bike so im learning as i go. thanks
Ebola Monkey
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77-80 will work.
I believe 81-82 are different.
Very Handy Link Great for cross referencing.
I know the part you're talking about. It can be fixed but I've heard it'll break again in most cases.
I believe 81-82 are different.
Very Handy Link Great for cross referencing.
I know the part you're talking about. It can be fixed but I've heard it'll break again in most cases.
volcomskater77
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and that helps a lot thank you very much
Ebola Monkey
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Yeah, that's the damage I expected. Engine was seized, and someone gorilla'd it. Neither the first, or the last.
I'm an unwilling XS400 expert, and you'll soon be one too. I would suggest a bottom half off ebay, or craigslist. I know there have been a bunch suggested.
If you have any question's don't hesitate to ask. I've been down the XS400 road, and I live 20 minutes away. Not to mention I changed a hot water heater at my dad's house off 183'rd, and 84'th ave yesterday.
I'm an unwilling XS400 expert, and you'll soon be one too. I would suggest a bottom half off ebay, or craigslist. I know there have been a bunch suggested.
If you have any question's don't hesitate to ask. I've been down the XS400 road, and I live 20 minutes away. Not to mention I changed a hot water heater at my dad's house off 183'rd, and 84'th ave yesterday.
volcomskater77
XS650 Enthusiast
thanks man i live in the townhouses in brookside glen off 88th avenue and 191st im slowly becoming one also. unfortunately its before its running lol. ill definitely be asking more questions. but it will prob be in my build thread. so just check that. and thanks for the help everyone. it helps a lot
Ebola can you use mismatched cases on a 400? It's not recommended with the 650. I think for $24 I would use a matched set.
Ebola Monkey
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I'm honestly not sure. I was being sarcastic when I said expert, just learned a lot going through all of the BS on my wife's 400. Not as much of a knowledge base on them as there is on the 650's so I had to learn more the hard way. Honestly it's a really easy bike to work on, and is about as simple as they come.
volcomskater77
XS650 Enthusiast
Would that 1980 special II engine case work? i assume the special is just a cosmetic designation? my block number is 2L0 - 106053 a have discs front and back. rectangle taillights and my side covers say xs 400. i thought the special II's had special on the side covers but i may be wrong. i have no idea options package i have, but im pretty sure that its a xs400F based on yamaha motors online manual. any help?
