hi guys,, thanks for your help,, i pulled the tank back off... and went over my wires again,, 1 condensor black bullet connection was loose sloppy,so i put a new bullet connection on and re-connected ,, then i pulled the points plate off after marking the r.h.side with a white texta,,i figured out that its been ,7 years since i replaced my points with new ones they looked terrible and to top it off the bottom points {left} had a very loose bolt on the actual wire to the points,, so new points went on and wires bolted right up and today sometime {monday} i,ll try to set up the correct gap and position on the base plate,,, its easy to feel shame for not replacing points far more often ,,after all they are fairly cheap to get from mikes,,, also while i,m at it ,,,,, whats the go with the double lobe points cam that mikes sells as i,ve never seen them at all regards oldbiker