royfisk
build and rebuild get bet
Scott; sort of like barbs is the body style. The only person I know that does glass is terry hall in brattleboro and he retired.
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whats out there for xs sidecar pics?
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Furious D
XS650 Addict
I,ve been away for a while because I sold my XS project in a moment of weakness.
I just obtained a Velorex 562 Sidecar attached to a tired old Suzuki GS-850. I want to find a better bike to mount it to. The XS came to mind but I am wondering if it has the power to pull the load.
Not looking to cruise the interstate an 70, more like back roads at 45. The car weighs in at about 150 Lbs. plus with both kids and the car battery I use for ballast I am looking at
around 300 Lbs in the car plus my 190 Lbs puts it up to 500 total payload.
Right now the GS does a fine job of pulling the weight but if I lose a couple cylinders will I be overtaxing the motor and clutch ? Should I stick with a inline four or maybe a triple.
I just obtained a Velorex 562 Sidecar attached to a tired old Suzuki GS-850. I want to find a better bike to mount it to. The XS came to mind but I am wondering if it has the power to pull the load.
Not looking to cruise the interstate an 70, more like back roads at 45. The car weighs in at about 150 Lbs. plus with both kids and the car battery I use for ballast I am looking at
around 300 Lbs in the car plus my 190 Lbs puts it up to 500 total payload.
Right now the GS does a fine job of pulling the weight but if I lose a couple cylinders will I be overtaxing the motor and clutch ? Should I stick with a inline four or maybe a triple.
gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
The xs is a great bike for sidecar use, a perfect match for the velorex
Look in my album and see sidecar build... http://www.xs650.com/forum/member.php?u=344
Furious D
XS650 Addict
Thanks Gordon , Your rig was the inspiration for me to buy a sidecar. I have a pic of yours up on the wall of my garage. I always wanted to build an off-road capable hack but dont really want to spend 20 G's for one.
As soon as I can get rid of a couple bikes I will start looking for another XS. I need to make some space in the garage, Sidecars sure take up a lot of space!
As soon as I can get rid of a couple bikes I will start looking for another XS. I need to make some space in the garage, Sidecars sure take up a lot of space!
gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
Hey Furious, Glad I could inspire someone
Please keep us posted and if I can be of any help with info and such don't hesitate to ask. Sidecars are a blast, a forgoten form of fun 
gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
Her is my raty xs with sidecar
http://www.motokultas.lt/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/100_1850.jpg
http://www.motokultas.lt/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/100_1850.jpg
gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
scott s
XS650 Guru
Hey Roy, Why don't we just build it? We can make it from scatch any way you like! You have any pictures of this "sprint" style you're looking for? p.s. gotta post a pic of mine since this is a sidecar thread
That is SICK! I love the bike by itself, but the hack makes it even cooler.
Tech7
XS650 Junkie
That front end looks like it would be hard to turn with the axle so far forward. Is it?real sidecar!
gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
No it's much easier! BIG subject! The rake is stock but the trail is reduced. This makes for power steering like feeling with a sidecar but a tank slapper without a sidecar. The trail on a stock bike is such that your bike wants to upright itself after a turn, on two wheels you lean in corners. But a sidecar does not lean so that same trail makes you always want to go strait making it difficult to turn. Sorry, not good at explaining things
If you look at my rig on this page you'll see mine is same way, ahead of stock location (top picture see it best) look at space between tire and frame.Because of the rake on the front end, the axle looks like it is a fair way forward, but it actually has neutral trail, and it steers really well.
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gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
Sorry but you're 180 degrees off
You are right about neutral trail but wrong in the why. If you rake out a front end you increase trail. The "leading link" you are running ruduces trail and makes it easier to turn. Chopper guys will know exactly what I'm talking about. When you rake the neck out the front end is heavy feeling when you are just sitting there turning it back and forth, you can even feel the bike raise when centered at zenith and lower when turned left or right. With the "leading link" you lose this effect because of the reduced trail. Sidecars don't lean and the stock rake and trail makes it hard to turn, the rig wants to go strait. P.S. And your comment about your "real sidecar"!!! You bought that "wasp" outfit, I built mine 
Thanks for the detailed explanation and the cool pics.
Ok perhaps I worded it wrong,
Bacause of the rake, the front swingarm needs to be that long to maintain correct trail.
Not bought wasp, that is a homebuilt replica. Made from 4130 and tig welded, not Reynolds tube and bronzed like the originals.
Only a few minor differences, jap wheels, and brakes, acerbis plastics, acerbis fuel cap instead of the original monza type cap, aluminum side covers instead of fiberglass, linear chain adjusters, not eccentric, etc. but other than that it is a pretty true copy of the original RT2.
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Ok perhaps I worded it wrong,
Bacause of the rake, the front swingarm needs to be that long to maintain correct trail.
You bought that "wasp" outfit, I built mine
Not bought wasp, that is a homebuilt replica. Made from 4130 and tig welded, not Reynolds tube and bronzed like the originals.
Only a few minor differences, jap wheels, and brakes, acerbis plastics, acerbis fuel cap instead of the original monza type cap, aluminum side covers instead of fiberglass, linear chain adjusters, not eccentric, etc. but other than that it is a pretty true copy of the original RT2.
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gordonscott
XS650exhaust.com
I stand corrected on your bike then, fine job indeed
Tech7
XS650 Junkie
Thanks guys. Interesting stuff.
Just saw this in my local craigslis and thought you side car guys might be interested. http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2001133416.html
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Newagerocker
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New to this forum just signed up but glad I can post pic of my former XS650 Sidecar.
