MAndrade1980
XS650 Enthusiast
The thing wont turn at all. Can I just whack the other end of it, should it pop out? Any suggestions? Thing turns less than 5 degrees and its stiff as a board.
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Drum brake won't budge, what gives?
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The thing wont turn at all. Can I just whack the other end of it, should it pop out? Any suggestions? Thing turns less than 5 degrees and its stiff as a board.
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
Heat it up with a hair drier and throw some PB blaster to it. Tap it out, and don't get too aggressive with it. If you have a vice, you can wiggle it back and forth with and adjustable wrench while trying to tap it out. Spray some patience on it. Careful not to peen the end of the splined shaft.
bpeckm
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One word: KROIL
Best stuff, bar none.
Best stuff, bar none.
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
Kroil is great stuff, but MAN! It stinks!
MAndrade1980
XS650 Enthusiast
Gonna have to look for that stuff! Thanks so much guys for the quick info. I freaking love this site! Praying this thing is salvageable.
MAndrade1980
XS650 Enthusiast
Anyone in the New England area know a local shop that stocks Kroil? Looking around don't know if it's something in stock around here.
jd750ace
Front Toward Enemy
You can get it through Brownell's, aircraft spruce and specialty, or you can order it direct.
http://www.kanolabs.com/
I have some in Maine!
http://www.kanolabs.com/
I have some in Maine!
wesleyonoel
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Just read about a "brew" for penetrant from a machinist. Consists of 50:50 ATF (automatic transmission fluid) and acetone. Haven't tried it so can't recommend. Might be worth a try? Claim was that it's as good/better than Kroil? Dang sure a lot less expensive...........Wesley
Once you get the pivot shaft out, you'll notice it has a slight depression cut into it along part of the section that fits through the hub. This is there to hold grease. Liberally grease the hole and the shaft, then work the shaft in and out of the hub using a twisting motion. That will displace all the extra grease and leave that depressed area full. The twisting motion is the key here. Just pushing the shaft in and out straight won't fill that depression.
Also of note - on the outer side of the hub where the shaft exits, there is a step cut into the end of the hole .....
There should be a felt seal ring in there to help keep dirt and water out of the hole. I clean the ring by dipping briefly in kerosene then pressing between clean paper towels. Once clean, I knead it full of grease and install.
Also of note - on the outer side of the hub where the shaft exits, there is a step cut into the end of the hole .....
There should be a felt seal ring in there to help keep dirt and water out of the hole. I clean the ring by dipping briefly in kerosene then pressing between clean paper towels. Once clean, I knead it full of grease and install.
PB blaster is a good for this stuff too, almost anything liquid is a big help. Whenever you are working on a stuck shaft bolt etc. work it out a little then tap or turn it back in ways, lube, repeat. IMHO if you just drive it out one part or the other galls and a big curl of material is forced out along with the shaft, this wad of material tears the crap out of the surfaces. By going back and forth the chunks get knocked off or leveled a bit and things come apart with much less damage.
Check the shoes carefully, if water got in the drum the shoes often fall off the backing plates. They are just bonded on, water, age, and expansion cause the adhesive to fail.
Check the shoes carefully, if water got in the drum the shoes often fall off the backing plates. They are just bonded on, water, age, and expansion cause the adhesive to fail.
MAndrade1980
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Got it off! Have to buy a new felt washer that you mentioned 5twins as it was garbage, I'm sure it's available at MikesXS, thanks so much for the tips guys!
angus67
Welder's penetrate deeper!!
make your own felt washer. doubt mikes would have it.
The felt ring is still available from Yamaha for about $2. It was used on various models up through '99 .....
http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-148-25359-00-00.html
http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-148-25359-00-00.html
Throw away that crescent wrench. It's for when it's not practical to carry a set of wrenches on your belt. When you're working on other peoples stuff
Get a set of wrenches. Doesn't have to be expensive ones. China is better than Taiwan these days.MAndrade1980
XS650 Enthusiast
Throw away that crescent wrench. It's for when it's not practical to carry a set of wrenches on your belt. When you're working on other peoples stuff
I do have a set, I was just using it just to shimmy the thing back and forth.
I agree though.
