OK super sleuthes tell me what I'll find.

gggGary · Oct 24, 2015

The kick starter moves about 1/8 of the arc but then it's locked solid. P O said had the RH cover off twice..... What am I going to find? The chain and front sprocket were off, rear axle was still tight with cotter pin in place. (loose parts neatly in a baggie) Bike had charging system problems, that is related, for bonus points tell me why. Bike had drop cafe bars the original "special" clutch cable routing would have done a Boa constrictor proud. Super man probably couldn't have worked the lever. I put the chain and sprocket back on, routed the cable so it will work. It shifts through all the gears. No battery or key, I haven't tried the e start Before I open it, what is "wrong" under that RH cover?

5twins · Oct 24, 2015

I'm going to guess a totally messed up kick assembly install, with the drag clip and return spring not located properly. No doubt the kick assembly pulled out with the cover removal and it was all down hill from there, lol.

As for the charging problems, I'm guessing the chain got a hold of the alternator wires and did some chewing.

TwoManyXS1Bs · Oct 24, 2015

gggGary said:
...Bike had charging system problems, that is related, for bonus points tell me why...

Not another twisted crank and locked motor?

gggGary · Oct 24, 2015

TwoManyXS1Bs said:
Not another twisted crank and locked motor?

Don't even THINK that!

pretty sure the "lock up" is right at the kicker.

TwoManyXS1Bs · Oct 24, 2015

gggGary said:
Don't even THINK that!

Haha, sorry. I tend to go for the jugular right off.

I'll second 5twins...

racerdave · Oct 24, 2015

P O probably left a Summer shandy in there causing lock up.

gggGary · Oct 24, 2015

Oh you're just grumpy cause the Badgers are doing it. (so far)

racerdave · Oct 25, 2015

gggGary said:
Oh you're just grumpy cause the Badgers are doing it. (so far)

I'm thinking that has something do do with college football? Don't watch or care about any form of it. Waste of time. Grumpy? Maybe, still mourning my Cardinals loosing to those fukn cubs. Also you now what season isn't getting here fast enough :thumbsup:

gggGary · Oct 25, 2015

racerdave said:
P O probably left a Summer shandy in there causing lock up.

How did you KNOW the PO lived in Illinois???

Forecast is for heavy snow this winter....

gggGary · Oct 25, 2015

You had to go and say that 2Many!

Piston(s) are stuck, dang it. good dose of PB blaster in there now.

gggGary · Oct 25, 2015

So a couple light whacks on wrenches on the crank back and forth freed the pistons but it goes around then comes to a hard stop both ways. Valves seem to be working but will have to look some more.

TwoManyXS1Bs · Oct 25, 2015

Well, shut mah mouth!

5twins · Oct 26, 2015

Turning one way then stopping, then back the other way and stopping usually means a valve stuck open and hitting the piston. But, it could be the piston rings coming back up to the point they were stuck at and hitting the ring of rust there.

fredintoon · Oct 26, 2015

Hi Solo,
um, the photo shows the sad and sorry state the bores are in so the head has to have been removed to take the photo and even if a valve was stuck open when the head was on it couldn't be stopping the engine turning over now, eh?
But yeah, those bores are beyond salvage.

5twins · Oct 26, 2015

I think Gary might have one of those inspection cameras.

fredintoon · Oct 26, 2015

5twins said:
I think Gary might have one of those inspection cameras.

Hi 5twins,
Gary got one of those? Ooh, there's posh.
Still and all, that bore is FUBAR.

gggGary · Oct 26, 2015

Yeah borescope not that expensive and I got a USB adapter so it it works with my phone also. I may spring for a higher rez version one of these days. At the least I need to do some brackets to make it easier to hold and aim the cam, adjust the focus, while holding the phone.

Hmm a guess it may have sat out for bit with the carbs off. Tranny bottom end parts look OK
Bore is shot. Valves are all free I can even feel the grittyness as the piston, rings come to the rusted area. I have 700 kits with bored cylinders ready to go in just need to get going on engine rebuilds. Later maybe. For now I'll lube everything, button it up and send it back to the shed.

And uh, c'mon guys this is supposed to be fun, lighten up a bit OK?

Some other shots of this engine.

there were no gaskets on the oil filter or cover. It appeared the clutch cover had never been off. Usual leaky tach drive

fredintoon · Oct 26, 2015

Hi solo,
thanks for that.
I'm reminded of long ago advice as to what to say to a driver who has just crashed into your car:-
" Not withstanding the fact that your driving skills are only exceeded by your good looks, high intelligence and noble birth I hold you entirely responsible for this collision, you ugly stupid bastard."

fredintoon · Oct 26, 2015

gggGary said:
Yeah borescope not that expensive and I got a USB adapter so it it works with my phone also.

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And uh, c'mon guys this is supposed to be fun, lighten up a bit OK?

Hi Gary,
WTF is that in photo #5, it looks like an insect pupa?
And yeah, solo and me. Curmudgeon Clash! We could sell tickets.

gggGary · Oct 26, 2015

Fred; You gotta guess! Here's your chance to show up finger boy.

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