Happy Birthday Bob !
From one Bob to another you've done a fantastic job on your birthday Present ! although I doubt it will ever be Finished.... so start another for fun ! leave the good one to ride ! LOL
have a goodern'
Bob..........
 
Happy birthday Bob! Thanks for taking us along with your XS journey. Quite a ride it's been. What's next!
 
Happy birthday Bob!!!

Dammit, I’m comin’ over. Just....oh to hell with the questions.

I’ll be there on Boxing Day - see you 30/12 at the BBQ!!!

Pete
 
Well, happy birthday, Bob.

This past 12 months have been epic. Record weather, news events, now the anniversary of you gettin' yer bike, simultaneous with Trump's election win.

Did a quick review thru this enormous thread, you've come a long way.

I'd say you're well past the apprenticeship period...
 
Happy Birthday! I`ve followed this thread from the start and it has been one of the best threads on this site. I`m still practicing to become shade tree mechanic but I`ll go up against anyone anytime on draining the bank account. :)
 
Well then, this appears to be one of those gifts that just keeps on giving, lol. It's very true, pretty much all of these need a little fixin', even the ones that look good on the outside to begin with. We're pretty well versed on the 650's inner workings around here and much of what we do isn't very well known outside the confines of this forum. Most 650s would probably continue to motor on without all the little tweaks we give them, but they can be made to function much better, and I think that's our main goal here.

So, congrats on your birthday and on how far you've come with the bike in only one year. You accomplished much more than I did in my 1st year of 650 ownership, lol.
 
Sorry my regards are belated Bob, been doing a lot of garage time lately but I do extend my sincere birthday greetings.
I have turned 62 and also spent the last year living the 650 dream. I hope, one day, my '78 SE will in some way reflect the excellent job your have done on your own motorcycle. I have followed your thread here from its inception so I realise how meticulously you have applied yourself to this restoration so, well done and many happy returns.
My God! Has it been a year??
 
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I'm baaack! Did you miss me?
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Starter Gear Replacement and serious Mission Creep!

My starter has been sketchy since day one. Lately however it has really been jumping out of gear while the starter is engaged. I have been planning this for a long time. Fortunately for me I procrastinated long enough that several of my friends went first and did a great job of documenting their work, therefore making life much easier for me! Yay! I'm not going to document every single washer I removed because that info is available in exploded diagrams and others work. I do however like taking photos and this IS my little thread so......here we go.

The first thing I did was to remove my gas tank, carbs, seat, mirrors, battery, right side foot peg, kick starter, and tip the bike over onto its left side, propped up on the rear lift handle and the left side exhaust pipe, right next to the head. This makes it so the oil doesn't have to be drained and everything is in an excellent position to work on.
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Cover off and my first impression is that everything looks remarkably clean and there is no apparent damage to the clutch pressure plate screws.
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I then removed the clutch pressure plate screws and the springs, which let me pull of the pressure plate and remove all the clutch plates.
Once all that was removed, I could then remove the clutch basket. I bought a universal clutch holding tool made by Tusk. It works well, if a little bit fiddly. It comes with one caution, DO NOT clamp this tight, use only enough pressure to hold the basket. Too much pressure can damage your clutch basket. I used a plug in electric 1/2" impact wrench to take the hub nut off. It came off RIGHT NOW!
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There are a lot of washers of various thicknesses in this clutch assembly. If this is your first time in there, as it was for me. I recommend you take a lot of photos and or notes, and keep your work area neat. You'll be glad you did later.
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This was my needle bearing.
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Even though it wasn't broken I decided to upgrade to a MikesXS needle bearing, that has a whole bunch more roller bearings, it was an inexpensive upgrade.
With the clutch basket removed I can now work on getting to that starter gear. There is a gear in front of it that has to come off before you can get to it. First thing is removing a snap ring that holds a whole assortment of washers.
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Once again the washers are numerous. Pay attention to the order as you are removing them. Now you can remove that gear.
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Now you can access the starter gear and the coil spring. Ah here's the one I came all this way to access.
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The gear and spring really don't look all that bad. The rubber is mostly intact, the teeth look a little hammered, but the real culprit here is the wishbone tension spring, it only had only four pounds of slip tension.
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I replaced this gear and spring with a new one from MikesXS. The new one, as others have reported, does not have enough tension to operate properly. I did as others have and bought a little spring loaded fish weighing scale and I squeezed the new spring until I got roughly 12 pounds of resistance to turn on the gear.
I cannot stress enough the need to stay organized. You don't want to mix up the order of any of your washers and spacers. I like to use ice cube trays to hold small parts. And I photograph EVERYTHING.
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Up next, here comes the mission creep
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Way to go "Jack" !
Wow I haven't seen teeth like those! I often see them worn WAY back but not so much that taper/ bevel yours exhibit. I guess that poor thing has been skittering away for a looong time. I haven't used a mike's spring but the one in your bike is the heavier late model type (not in the little recess). Long ago guys here bitched about the mikes springs being on the weak side. I've had good luck recrimping the late model stockers. :shrug: A vice grips works well, right xjwmx? :sneaky:
 
I bought a universal clutch holding tool made by Tusk. It works well, if a little bit fiddly.
Well don't I feel like a shade tree guy.... I just jam a piece of wood between the gears. ;)
 
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