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I am Carbon
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Well A Form of Gun Confiscation Has Reportedly Begun in New York State!
Gun owners are losing their 2nd Amendment rights without due process.
How did confiscation start happening so quickly? Apparently the gun grabbing was triggered by something inside the NY SAFE Act — New York's new gun law — that has a provision apparently mandating confiscation of weapons and permits if someone has been prescribed psychotropic drugs.
The Case:
On April 1st, a legal gun owner in upstate New York reportedly received an official notice from the state ordering him to surrender any and all weapons to his local police department. The note said that the person's permit to own a gun in New York was being suspended as well. The gun owner contacted attorney Jim Tresmond (a specialist in gun laws in New York) and the two visited the local police precinct.
Mr. Tresmond reportedly went into the precinct and informed the officers that his client, waiting in the parking lot, was coming in to voluntarily surrender his weapons as requested. The local police were aware of the letter because they had already been contacted by the State Police. Apparently, if people do not respond to the initial mailing, local law enforcement is authorized to visit the gun owner at their home and demand the surrender of the firearms. In this case, the gun owner followed the request as written. The guns and permits were handed over and a receipt given to the client.
After the guns were turned over, a request for a local hearing was filed and the gun owner is expecting to have his Second Amendment rights restored. But there is more to this story.
In our conversation with lawyer Jim Tresmond, we learned that this client, who has never had a problem with the law — no criminal record and or violent incidents on record — did have a temporary, short term health issue that required medication. But how were his client's private medical information accessed by the government? This appears to be a violation of HIPAA and Health Information Privacy policies at HHS.gov. If it is declared a violation, this becomes a civil rights issue.
Some claim that a broad interpretation of this statement from HIPAA might allow the government to have instant access to the medical records and gun ownership records of anyone who is prescribed psychotropic drugs.
A major goal of the Privacy Rule is to assure that individuals' health information is properly protected while allowing the flow of health information needed to provide and promote high quality health care and to protect the public's health and well being.
That short phrase, "protect the public's health and well being"is probably going to be cited as the reason governments can require notification of any gun owner who is prescribed a class of drugs used to treat Depression and Anxiety known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors).
The Mental Health Law provision of the SAFE Act claims
The NY SAFE Act is designed to remove firearms from those who seek to do harm to themselves or others. This means keeping the minority of individuals with serious mental illness who may be dangerous away from access to firearms. This law should not dissuade any individual from seeking mental health services they need.
The law is clear on what it expects:
MHL 9.46 requires mental health professionals to report to their local director of community services ("DCS") or his/her designees when, in their reasonable professional judgment, one of their patients is "likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others."
The man who was asked/directed to turn over his guns reportedly did not exhibit any signs of violent or dangerous behavior. According to his attorney, the man's doctor did not report any danger to the authorities. So, who did report it?
Also known as MHL 9.46, the law talks about who is supposed to report on mental health risks and which patients qualify:
-The reporting requirement extends to "mental health professionals,"defined in the law as four professions – physicians (including psychiatrists), psychologists, registered nurses, or licensed clinical social workers.
In addition to what Mr. Tresmond called "the laughable diminution of our rights,"the lawyer speculated about additional unintended consequences of releasing this confidential patient information to law enforcement.
-What if an employer learns that a worker had their firearms confiscated? Could that person's employment be put at risk?
-What if your neighbors saw police come to your home and leave with your guns? Could that compromise your safety?
-Could this kind of confiscation also make people think twice about getting treatment for a temporary mental illness?
don't think this can't happen to us!
if we keep sitting on our asses it will!
Gun owners are losing their 2nd Amendment rights without due process.
How did confiscation start happening so quickly? Apparently the gun grabbing was triggered by something inside the NY SAFE Act — New York's new gun law — that has a provision apparently mandating confiscation of weapons and permits if someone has been prescribed psychotropic drugs.
The Case:
On April 1st, a legal gun owner in upstate New York reportedly received an official notice from the state ordering him to surrender any and all weapons to his local police department. The note said that the person's permit to own a gun in New York was being suspended as well. The gun owner contacted attorney Jim Tresmond (a specialist in gun laws in New York) and the two visited the local police precinct.
Mr. Tresmond reportedly went into the precinct and informed the officers that his client, waiting in the parking lot, was coming in to voluntarily surrender his weapons as requested. The local police were aware of the letter because they had already been contacted by the State Police. Apparently, if people do not respond to the initial mailing, local law enforcement is authorized to visit the gun owner at their home and demand the surrender of the firearms. In this case, the gun owner followed the request as written. The guns and permits were handed over and a receipt given to the client.
After the guns were turned over, a request for a local hearing was filed and the gun owner is expecting to have his Second Amendment rights restored. But there is more to this story.
In our conversation with lawyer Jim Tresmond, we learned that this client, who has never had a problem with the law — no criminal record and or violent incidents on record — did have a temporary, short term health issue that required medication. But how were his client's private medical information accessed by the government? This appears to be a violation of HIPAA and Health Information Privacy policies at HHS.gov. If it is declared a violation, this becomes a civil rights issue.
Some claim that a broad interpretation of this statement from HIPAA might allow the government to have instant access to the medical records and gun ownership records of anyone who is prescribed psychotropic drugs.
A major goal of the Privacy Rule is to assure that individuals' health information is properly protected while allowing the flow of health information needed to provide and promote high quality health care and to protect the public's health and well being.
That short phrase, "protect the public's health and well being"is probably going to be cited as the reason governments can require notification of any gun owner who is prescribed a class of drugs used to treat Depression and Anxiety known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors).
The Mental Health Law provision of the SAFE Act claims
The NY SAFE Act is designed to remove firearms from those who seek to do harm to themselves or others. This means keeping the minority of individuals with serious mental illness who may be dangerous away from access to firearms. This law should not dissuade any individual from seeking mental health services they need.
The law is clear on what it expects:
MHL 9.46 requires mental health professionals to report to their local director of community services ("DCS") or his/her designees when, in their reasonable professional judgment, one of their patients is "likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others."
The man who was asked/directed to turn over his guns reportedly did not exhibit any signs of violent or dangerous behavior. According to his attorney, the man's doctor did not report any danger to the authorities. So, who did report it?
Also known as MHL 9.46, the law talks about who is supposed to report on mental health risks and which patients qualify:
-The reporting requirement extends to "mental health professionals,"defined in the law as four professions – physicians (including psychiatrists), psychologists, registered nurses, or licensed clinical social workers.
In addition to what Mr. Tresmond called "the laughable diminution of our rights,"the lawyer speculated about additional unintended consequences of releasing this confidential patient information to law enforcement.
-What if an employer learns that a worker had their firearms confiscated? Could that person's employment be put at risk?
-What if your neighbors saw police come to your home and leave with your guns? Could that compromise your safety?
-Could this kind of confiscation also make people think twice about getting treatment for a temporary mental illness?
don't think this can't happen to us!
if we keep sitting on our asses it will!
EvenmoreXS
1981 XS650
This is hilarious...mostly because Im a gigolo....
This thread is awesome. Covers a lot of ground. By the time its over, I'll have it all figured out.
When do we get to talk about UFO's. Im so excited. Just Cant wait.
I think they're real.......Unidentified Flying Objects that is ........Aliens....Thats different......or is it????????
I am Carbon
shade tree mechanic
Hell Yea! there is UFOs.
and there are aliens for sure hell some are illegal.
UFO thread
UFOs or what?
and there are aliens for sure hell some are illegal.
UFO thread
UFOs or what?
EvenmoreXS
1981 XS650
Hell Yea! there is UFOs.
and there are aliens for sure hell some are illegal.
UFO thread
UFOs or what?
Thats rude. Not everyone in Arizona is from outer space. Geez you guys.
UFO's are what you get in your eyes, around the shop, when you don't have eye protection.
slipshot
XS650 Member
PARANOIA such a person may be hostile, fearful, extremely suspicious of others, sensitive to rejection, and self-important, all without any factual reason for these feelings.
I am Carbon
shade tree mechanic
NJ?
State's run by a bunch of elitist pricks. F 'em all.
State's run by a bunch of elitist pricks. F 'em all.
Been over 4 years since the last post. .............pun intended
mass shootings in the US since then.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence
Interesting statistics here.............
keeping Las Vegas safe........
In Las Vegas, it’s illegal to carry a fake or toy gun but not a real one.
Clark County commissioners passed an ordinance banning “dangerous objects” from the Las Vegas strip in 2012.
The ban, intended to make the sidewalks safer, prohibited flame throwers, blades over three-inches long and toy guns.
But it didn’t prohibit real guns.
3 children killed so a full US ban is put in place.
After a recent serious injury caused by a lawn dart, the US Consumer Product Safety Commission reissued its warning that lawn darts are banned and should be destroyed. Effective on December 19, 1988, CPSC banned the sale of all lawn darts in the US. Pointed lawn darts, intended for use in an outdoor game, have been responsible for the deaths of three children. One injury took place in Elkhart, a city in Indiana, when a 7-year-old boy suffered a brain injury after a lawn dart pierced his skull.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...a-weekly-basis-in-the-us-20151015-gk9evu.html
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...t/news-story/2ce3d693d182cb31ca7dbab186b2564c
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/04/health/children-gunshot-wounds-study/index.html
Good to see law makers are serious about children welfare.............
Make war not love
You can legally own more guns than sex toys in Texas.
Possessing six or more dildos is illegal in the Lone Star State under a 1973 law which was introduced when the US Supreme Court overhauled obscenity laws.
The law prohibited the sale or promotion of “Obscene device" no more than 6 dildos per person..........
mass shootings in the US since then.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence
Interesting statistics here.............
keeping Las Vegas safe........
In Las Vegas, it’s illegal to carry a fake or toy gun but not a real one.
Clark County commissioners passed an ordinance banning “dangerous objects” from the Las Vegas strip in 2012.
The ban, intended to make the sidewalks safer, prohibited flame throwers, blades over three-inches long and toy guns.
But it didn’t prohibit real guns.
3 children killed so a full US ban is put in place.
After a recent serious injury caused by a lawn dart, the US Consumer Product Safety Commission reissued its warning that lawn darts are banned and should be destroyed. Effective on December 19, 1988, CPSC banned the sale of all lawn darts in the US. Pointed lawn darts, intended for use in an outdoor game, have been responsible for the deaths of three children. One injury took place in Elkhart, a city in Indiana, when a 7-year-old boy suffered a brain injury after a lawn dart pierced his skull.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...a-weekly-basis-in-the-us-20151015-gk9evu.html
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...t/news-story/2ce3d693d182cb31ca7dbab186b2564c
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/04/health/children-gunshot-wounds-study/index.html
Good to see law makers are serious about children welfare.............
Make war not love
You can legally own more guns than sex toys in Texas.
Possessing six or more dildos is illegal in the Lone Star State under a 1973 law which was introduced when the US Supreme Court overhauled obscenity laws.
The law prohibited the sale or promotion of “Obscene device" no more than 6 dildos per person..........
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Yup, wackyness persists.
A law still on the books:
"In case of indian attack on the Texas capitol in Austin, the lieutenant governor takes over as governor, while the real governor escapes"...
A law still on the books:
"In case of indian attack on the Texas capitol in Austin, the lieutenant governor takes over as governor, while the real governor escapes"...
I find it strange that the government and media are making such a big deal about the so-called "assault weapons", and the ultimate demon gun, the AR-15. The concept has been around for over one hundred years. The AR-15 has been commercially available for over fifty years. Now suddenly they are "the problem". The problem is not enforcing the 20,000 gun laws we already have.
^The laws are enforced; it's just that people break laws.
I trust the wisdom of the founding fathers more than the wisdom of hysterical journalists. I think without a free U.S. there would be no free world, really. It matters less what the rest of the world does than what we do.
I trust the wisdom of the founding fathers more than the wisdom of hysterical journalists. I think without a free U.S. there would be no free world, really. It matters less what the rest of the world does than what we do.
