The guy falling of his bike is not the bikes fault. A stupid rider is the problem.
you might be quicker thru a 1/4 but you'll get run down in the endI could be wrong, I'm pretty sure a stock XS650 would eat up almost any stock Harley from the same period. (maybe not the 57 Sportster) And not in a straight line to top speed. In terms of modern bikes, I could cough on my R1 and outrun your FLH =].
Make that ANY FLH! And I'm not a HD basher, I love all bikes but the R1 is stupid fastIn terms of modern bikes, I could cough on my R1 and outrun your FLH =].
Make that ANY FLH! And I'm not a HD basher, I love all bikes but the R1 is stupid fast
I think you are forgetting about the "respect" that is given when you pull up to a strange watering hole on a Harley...
While there are some performance statistics that will show that the Harley is lacking in some areas, there is no substitute for true motorcycling 'Brotherhood'. Even though I enjoy the hell out my XS's there are true differences in riding a heavy weight bike with two times the torque and twice the attitude, than any Japanese wannabe... Period.
Let all the haters come out and whine but that just means you don't know...
"Let all the haters come out and whine but that just means you don't know..."Is that the "If you ain't on a Harley you ain't shit"mentality your showing! Come on Ironhead your better then that. Most, not all but most of the HD riders today hanging at bars are R.U.B.'s that don't even now how to change there own oil and talk shit about my bike if I don't show up with my American iron at the local watering hole. They buy every bolt on doo-dad from the catalog and have the dealer install it for them. Respect! I don't need respect or approval from people like that, I do what I do and ride what I ride because I like it. Is it nice to have people like your bike? Sure it is, but if they don't it's about as worrisome to me as a cloudy day. Ride what you like and who gives a shit about the posser. Real bikers like motorcycles not just brands, and I have plenty of Harley rider friends that are real bikers, they wrench there own and have respect for fellow builders even if it's not a Harley. Now if a fellow builder picks my shit apart that's another story P.S. I should have kept my big mouth shut on this one, I know I'll regret posting itI think you are forgetting about the "respect" that is given when you pull up to a strange watering hole on a Harley...
While there are some performance statistics that will show that the Harley is lacking in some areas, there is no substitute for true motorcycling 'Brotherhood'. Even though I enjoy the hell out my XS's there are true differences in riding a heavy weight bike with two times the torque and twice the attitude, than any Japanese wannabe... Period.
Let all the haters come out and whine but that just means you don't know...
"Let all the haters come out and whine but that just means you don't know..."Is that the "If you ain't on a Harley you ain't shit"mentality your showing! Come on Ironhead your better then that. Most, not all but most of the HD riders today hanging at bars are R.U.B.'s that don't even now how to change there own oil and talk shit about my bike if I don't show up with my American iron at the local watering hole. They buy every bolt on doo-dad from the catalog and have the dealer install it for them. Respect! I don't need respect or approval from people like that, I do what I do and ride what I ride because I like it. Is it nice to have people like your bike? Sure it is, but if they don't it's about as worrisome to me as a cloudy day. Ride what you like and who gives a shit about the posser. Real bikers like motorcycles not just brands, and I have plenty of Harley rider friends that are real bikers, they wrench there own and have respect for fellow builders even if it's not a Harley. Now if a fellow builder picks my shit apart that's another story P.S. I should have kept my big mouth shut on this one, I know I'll regret posting it :doh:
Well what a thread I started, just wanted to show the world what I saw, last time I saw a harley cop bike was on holidays in Hawaii, just thought it was of interest to "y'all" that they are down under.
Opinion follows, I spent the seventies on Jap bikes (back when "real bikers" called them Jap Crap"!) though my "new Jap Crap" 500 Kawa triple out ran most of them ??
Went to a Honda VF750 "Sabre" another fast straight liner, then followed by a Ducati 900 Darmah, I still tear up when I think of the day the new owner rode off into the sunset, conti's wailing.
Anyhow, invested in a HD FXRC EVO in 1988, handled like a bag of shit, but, due to many years of riding I suspect, could blow away the patched boys on their soft tails. Upgraded the shocks and forks and ended up with a HD that handled, well almost handled if you rode it with attitude. End of story, got married, sold the Harley..........shit happens.
Back when I was on the HD I was riding with Ducati's, a Laverda, Honda's (CB750/CBX), a Bonneville, Guzzi Le Mans, great bikes all and a fantastic bunch of blokes to hang out with.
If we all wanted the same bike would not that be fairly boring? each to their own and respect for all.
cheers