Here's my dealings with mikes regarding these carbs
Good evening,
I'm am writing concerning a couple parts I have purchased for my current restoration of my xs650. To date I have spent over $2500.00 with your company during the very slow rebuild of my bike. I'm now at the point where I am going the final tune and assembly. It's been a long road and I am running in to two speed bumps. First the 3mm internal hex on the performance rockers I purchased are very soft and stripping to the point where I can not tighten down the tappets and keep good clearance I'm using good snap-on allen keys not junk. This resulted in one of the lock nuts coming off the adjusted luckily it just landed in the oil galley and I fished it out. No engine carnage no foul. I need a replacement set of adjusters would a set of non elephant foot one's be a better idea?
2 ea. Rubber Grommet with Metal Bushing $6.00
1 ea. XS Performance Rocker Arm Set $110.00
1 ea. Caliper Mount Bolts - (Pk/2) 77-84 $4.50
1 ea. Lower Head Pipe Flange Bolt (Pk/2) $2.00
$122.50Sub-Total:
$10.53 United Parcel Service (3.79lbs) (Ground):
$133.03Total:
Status History & Comments
Date Order Status Comments
07/12/2011 Processing
Timestamp:
Amount: 133.03 USD
Second issue is my " Keihin carb kit" I purchased these believing I was buying genuine Keihin carbs. I have had not thing but issues in the last two weeks trying to get these carbs right. First I was sent two right side carb holders. You took care of that issue by sending be a new holder. Second I could not get the slides to return correctly using the cable provided I had a custom cable made my flanders and that issue is now taken care of the slides snap back just like they should. Now after getting all of that sorted and putting gas in them the floats stick like crazy I have had the bowls off and on a couple of times and nudged the overflow tube over as it was rubbing the float sides. they still over flow at random. They are also set at 19mm like they should be. I believe the fuel shut off seat is not machined correctly and is letting fuel by leaking on to my garage floor and in to my freshly rebuilt engine washing the rings. I would like to do any of the following
a. return the carb kit and get a refund so I could by a set of vm34's
b.return the carbs and receive Genuine Keihin carbs that you are now selling
Thank you for taking the time to read all of this I know it is rambling. attached is the copy of my receipt for my " Keihin" carb kit if you would like to speak with me My phone number is
Order Information - Order #
Qty. Products Total
4 ea. Brass Cylinder Head Washer $6.00
1 ea. Rivet Link-Tsubaki BF05T Cam Chain $4.00
2 ea. Clutch Pushrod Oil Seal $9.00
1 ea. Piston Rings "Standard" size 447 type $29.00
1 ea. Oil tube Base Fitting $9.00
1 ea. Aluminum Rocker Shaft Plug $15.00
1 ea. Dowel Pin-(pk/2) Cylinder base and top $3.00
1 ea. Gas Shock Set,black springs 12.6" $189.00
1 ea. Chrome Cap for Clutch Adjuster $8.00
1 ea. Oil Filter Screen (in RH engine side cvr) $8.00
1 ea. Athena Premium Overhaul Gasket Set $52.00
1 ea. Top End Copper sealing Washer Kit-9pc $6.00
1 ea. Bottom End Copper Washer Kit - 13pc. $7.00
1 ea. Fork Seal Set (2) 77-84 XS650's $10.00
1 ea. Washer - Fork Seal 77-84 35mm. (Pk2) $4.00
1 ea. Clip - Fork Seal 77-84 35mm. (Pk2) $4.00
1 ea. Damper Valve (Pr) - Front Forks 77-84 $49.00
1 ea. 35mm. Fork Tubes - (Set/2) for 77-84 $129.00
1 ea. 77-84 Fork Tube Caps O-Rings - Pk/2 $2.00
1 ea. Swing Arm Grease Seal - (Set/2) $14.00
1 ea. Steering Head Tapered Bearing Kit $39.00
1 ea. Cam Chain Breaker/Riveter Kit in Case $44.00
1 ea. Haynes Service Manual $19.00
1 ea. Fork Oil Level Gauge $15.00
1 ea. Side Stand Kit - Fits: 1977-84 $36.00
1 ea. XS Performance Keihin Carb Kit $299.00
1 ea. Exhaust Crown Nut & Lock Washer Set $6.00
1 ea. Oil Tube Banjo Bolt (Top) - Pk/2 $8.00
1 ea. Tach Drive Block-off Cap $5.00
1 ea. Cam Chain - Tsubaki BF05t x 102 $39.00
$1,067.00Sub-Total:
$0.00 United Parcel Service (Free Shipping (Order over $150)):
$1,067.00Total:
Mikes XS
Feb 2
to me
Sorry you had that problem. let me get an answer for you.
From:
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:32 PM
To: Mikes XS
Subject: Performance rocker set and pwk carb kit
Mikes XS
Feb 3
to me
Reply: Performance rocker set and carb kit.
James, Sorry this is normally not a problem, you could try the other rocker adjusters, they may be harder. Please send the stripped adjuster back so we can determine if there is a problem with the adjuster. The carbs are not Keihin carbs. They are XS Performance carbs. Please return them and I'll send you a new kit.
Feb 3
to Mikes
Can I purchase a new set of adjusters in the meantime. and you can credit me if they are deemed defective? I need to replace them one at a time so I don't have to pull the motor and rocker boxes. Being the elephant foot style I can't just unscrew them from the top. Could you send me a Paypal payment request to
Jd.jamesbailey@gmail.com
As for the carbs they were sold to me as Keihin carbs. They have "Keihin" cast into the side of them. I know you are no longer marketing them as such but I feel mislead and want real Japaneses Carbs on my bike. I am not interested in playing with another set I have already invested time and more money in trying to get them working properly before contacting you. I work 70 + hours a week and with a family I only get 2 hours a week of "me" time to work on my bike. So if I could get those adjusters coming I would really appreciate it. I am more then willing to pay for them until the old one's are inspected. Please let me know what you can do on the carbs. At this point I would just like to return them.
Thank you for your quick response.
Mikes XS
Feb 5
to me
Hi JD, I have a new set of adjusters headed your way.
We bought Mike's XS assets in February of last year and and after we took over we never sold any carbs with the Keihin logo on them or marketed them as Keihin. We did not feel it was ethical to sell something that was not what it was supposed to be. Thanks
From:
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 11:26 AM
To: Mikes XS
Subject: Re: Performance rocker set and pwk carb kit
Feb 6
to Mikes
Thanks for getting the tappets out I sent the carbs out on sat you should see them today. Let me know what your decision is on those. JD
Feb 7
to Mikes
I see you received the carbs back on monday. Thank you for getting the adjusters out so quick. I would also be willing to just receive store credit as I have another 650 project to start on.
Mikes XS
Feb 8
to me
HI James. Let me know how those adjusters work. The best I can offer you is to replace the carbs with our XS Performance carbs, which have been improved since the first production run. I'm doing this to help you even though you bought them from the old owner in late 2010. Let me know. Thanks
From:
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:44 PM
To: Mikes XS
Feb 8
to Mikes
I'll let you know how they do. It may be a couple weeks as I have to pull the motor and take off the rocker box to replace them. I thought I could do them one at a time however the cylinder studs prevent me from taking the rockers out. And being the elephant foot design you can't just back them out like stock ones.
Regarding the carbs I guess I'm hosed I now understand your position on these as well. I guess just send me the new ones if you can't do store credit. What are the improvments that have been made?
Mikes XS
Feb 9
to me
Mainly in the cable adjuster and some minor things we do to them when they arrive.
From:
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:17 AM
To: Mikes XS
Subject: Fwd: Performance rocker set and pwk carb kit
So in short I was sold fake carbs and here's some replacment fake carbs that now have a new cable adjuster and the Keihin logo is milled off and xs performance is engraved on them