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some wiring diagrams

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by inxs, Oct 14, 2009.

  1. Bob Kelly III

    Bob Kelly III Ranch Kid from way back,.... that got Old !

    Skull you can sujest all you like....I'm done talking to you ... your abrasive attitude is uncalled for and I could care less what you think any more.... your not trying to help..... lets be clear about that..your trying to hurt me for the sake of hurting.... so screw you ! and the horse you rode in on SIR !
    Bob....
     
  2. 650Skull

    650Skull SSSSSSSSSlither Top Contributor

    Now your being abusive..........my initial post was directed at the OP...........you decided to involve your self in my post and directed your post to me.........then i asked for a clarification on your post, and i gave you a working description on the relay in question ..........................Your next post was contradictory and confusing, in your descriptions on what you had done and around a component and its use, and the terminology used to describe parts. ..................Does bringing this to your attention warrant the language and abuse you have posted..........
     
  3. Bob Kelly III

    Bob Kelly III Ranch Kid from way back,.... that got Old !

    oh I see .... we can't involve ourselves in Skulls conversations ! sorry I didn't realise ! that makes it ok to be a complete and utter jerk eh Skull..... I'll try to avoid your posts in the future you try to avoid mine and keep your Advice to yourself I don't care what you have to say
    right or wrong ..... have a good one as I know you will.... simply because you like this shit.... when will you ever learn ?
    good bye !
    ....
    Bob..........
     
  4. 650Skull

    650Skull SSSSSSSSSlither Top Contributor

    Thank you for cleaning up your posts.............
     
  5. Bob Kelly III

    Bob Kelly III Ranch Kid from way back,.... that got Old !

    Tell me,.... what would you say if someone told YOU what You told me ? after many posts all geared to be a bit more irritating than the last..... you obviously wanted to make me mad..... you succeeded ... are you happy now ? Your Sick Skull..... you need to seak profesional help ......
    .....
    Bob....
     
  6. XSsex50

    XSsex50 XS650 Enthusiast

    Any particular reason why the regulator / rectifier is before the key? Wouldn't you want to kill power to this when not using? Any one have an idea?
    - Matty
     
  7. TwoManyXS1Bs

    TwoManyXS1Bs BBQ Hunter Top Contributor

    The engine may continue to run if the charging output isn't clipped. Similar to simply disconnecting the battery. My 71 will continue to run, as published in the early service manual, in the regulator test section.

    The reverse leakage from the rectifier is considered to be so insignificant that it's not a danger to the battery...
     
  8. XSsex50

    XSsex50 XS650 Enthusiast

    Thank you - TwoManyXS1Bs

    Makes perfect sense now.
     
  9. GeorgeOC

    GeorgeOC XS650 Junkie

    Here is a question for everyone on the wiring side of things... Im working with a 76', rewiring the bike using a replacement harness from Mikes. I have nearly made all the connections in the headlight bucket... There is one that has me befuddled. Inside the bucket coming from each side of the harness bundles that feed into bucket, there is a single Blue/Black on each bundle.

    When I touch each Blue/Black with the meter probes, I get the ol' trusty connectivity bell to ring on the meter. For the life of me, after reviewing the diagrams from 76', 77' and 75', I can't seem to see any Blue/Black wiring other than a very quick connection (in the 76' diagram) that connects the left h-bar switch to the right switch for the dimmer circuit. But, as I mentioned, these open Blue/Black leads are located on the harness, not the handlebar switch bundles.

    Can anyone venture a guess here? Should they be connected to each other? I can/t seem to find a any other leads at any position on the moto that connect to these Blue/Blacks.

    Any insights welcomed! Thanks gang!

    I understand that replacement harness, diagrams have all been known not to be 100% accurate always...
     
  10. 650Skull

    650Skull SSSSSSSSSlither Top Contributor

    On the Assembly manual it has an L/B wire coming from both the left and right wire harness into the headlight, + 2 L/B wires coming from the left and right bar switches........May help!
    76C Assembly manual - parts  Manualt19 19.jpg
     
  11. GeorgeOC

    GeorgeOC XS650 Junkie

    Thank you Skull, forgot about that drawing! I'm guessing the L/Bs from the harness, connect to the switches. Not 'harness to harness?'

    EDIT: "The lead wires of identical color must be connected to each other..."

    Maybe the L/B from each bottom hole (harness/harness) do connect to each other?
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2017
  12. GeorgeOC

    GeorgeOC XS650 Junkie

    Following that last post, here is a better explanation on my tale of woe (ha!) regarding the L/B wires for the 76'. Currently I have #1, and #2 positions connected. #3, and #4 are not connected yet. I am wondering if I have it correct, with 1 & 2, and just need to connect 3 and 4... Or if it's correct for #1 to #3, and #2 to #4?
     

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  13. Bob Kelly III

    Bob Kelly III Ranch Kid from way back,.... that got Old !

    Sometimes ya just gott'a throw away the book and do it how you think it should be done !
    them wiring diagrams can be very hard to understand and down right frustrating !
    you must understand the switches though, if you do it this way ..... or the entire system for that matter....
    and Buddy there is allot to understand in the wiring of these machines ! .... the Japs like to switch the GROUND side for some reason
    not the hot side like in America..... and even at that their not consistent in that regard,..... so look at the wiring diagram that has each switch in it and figure out how it works before you mess with it !....
    that's my advice !
    Bob......
     
  14. GeorgeOC

    GeorgeOC XS650 Junkie

    I hear that Bob, thank you! Appreciate the advice. The confusion I have at the moment is that the L/B's don't have any leads anywhere else on the harness. (under the seat, near the battery, or under the tank for example.)
     
  15. Bob Kelly III

    Bob Kelly III Ranch Kid from way back,.... that got Old !

    I am not sure at all but I think the light blue might be the tach and spedo lights so they would have to go to hot.....
    check it with a jumper wire and see if they light up if so that's the case....
    I think this because I recently had my tach all apart fixing it.... and the wire your referring to I think goes to the little bulb in the tach to light it up at night.....
    I could be wrong so take it with a grain of salt.... simply run a jumper from a known hot terminal or from the + side of the battery
    and just touch it to the wire and see if it lights up ...if so you found where it goes and what it does.... that lead then needs to go to the "Switched on" hot wire in the headlight bucket
    next would be to find the "Switched on" hot wire .... turn the key on and use a VTOM or trouble light and probe till you find it it should be a bigger wide connector that will hold both the wires !.... that connection shouldn't have any ground wires going to it or you will blow fusses... check your finding by turning the key off and on a few times and make sure it goes off with the key switch if so that is where you want to plug in your wires at .
    it's easy to get confused in the headlight bucket wiring because there are grounds for everything.... but they need to go to the GROUND terminal only.... some things like your horn work by grounding a wire or if it's already grounded by supplying a hot to it.... it depends on the setup.
    you have a hot wire and a ground for each turn signal the grounds go together into the main harness the hot for the turn signals go to their same color plug in. there is also neutral light and high beam indicator lights they should go to the "Switched Hot" as well but that depends it may well be separated from the key switch when in doubt Match colors DO NOT miss-match you could burn something out.
    ....
    good luck and keep at it ...You'll get it sorted out sooner or later !
    and YES they crammed enough wires in the headlight bucket to keep you entertained for months !!!!! LOL ! i do think I would have done it a bit different if I was designing it ! LOL
    .....take this with a grain of salt because I am not a motorcycle electrician ! nor have I looked at what it is you are dealing with !
    so be fore warned ! ( i figure if you can't find it neither can I ! LOL)
    .....good luck George ! I'm Rootin' fer ya ! you can do it !

    Bob.......
     
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  16. gggGary

    gggGary I'm listening, change my mind XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Anyone got any of inxs diagram pictures saved?
     
  17. figure8

    figure8 XS650 Guru

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  18. Road_Rider

    Road_Rider XS650 Member

    Why can't I see these
     
  19. figure8

    figure8 XS650 Guru

    The forum lost a lot of content due to changes made on photobucket. What diagram are you needing?
     
  20. xjwmx

    xjwmx It's just the unknown. Top Contributor

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    The one that goes by 81XS650_WIRING_(fixed).jpg is the best I've seen, wherever it came from.

    A diagram that shows the real connections, like a layout for a harness, color coded just like that would be useful. The usual schematics with dotted connections are good for debugging, but not the best for other things.
     

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