78 or 79 First time owner

[Betteron2]

 

[Betteron2]

Hello people - I recently acquired this kick only 78 or 79 that the PO said was having trouble with the kicker slipping. Is the last photo a stripped first gear?

Just wanted to verify and show off

 

[Betteron2]

The frame VIN points to 78. The engine is 79.

 

[gggGary]

The frame VIN points to 78. The engine is 79.

Design, parts the same.
Yeah that's ugly and unusual.

 

[Betteron2]

Thanks for the reply Gary.

That's an engine out sort of fix huh...

 

[gggGary]

Thanks for the reply Gary.

That's an engine out sort of fix huh...

Afraid so but flip it upside down and remove the bottom case, the head can stay on

 

[jpdevol]

Is the last photo a stripped first gear?

Yep..

 

[Betteron2]

Neat thanks again!

 

[gggGary]

Twenty bucks says that's a symptom, not a cause. Xs trannies just don't do that.

 

[Jim]

Afraid so but flip it upside down and remove the bottom case, the head can stay on

Yep... Leave the top end intact, flip it and pull the bottom case half. Relatively easy fix.

Otoh... any idea on how it runs or the history?
Since you're gonna have to pull the motor, might be a good time to freshen the top?

 

[Betteron2]

Twenty bucks says that's a symptom, not a cause. Xs trannies just don't do that.

Oh joy.

Yep... Leave the top end intact, flip it and pull the bottom case half. Relatively easy fix.

Otoh... any idea on how it runs or the history?
Since you're gonna have to pull the motor, might be a good time to freshen the top?

It ran ok a few days ago, taking the state of the carbs into consideration.

You could get it to start, if you rocked it back and forth and happened to find a decent run of decent teeth. I'm not sure of the damage precisely - though I did find two chipped teeth at the bottom of the cover.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[650Skull]

That is not just chipped teeth. Been mashed and ground in part to having already lost some teeth then kicking it over where the broken teeth were causing the gears to disintegrate, as pic shows.

I would b concerned. The small particles could b in the oil galleries.

Check the condition of the oil pump as well.

 

[Betteron2]

That is not just chipped teeth. Been mashed and ground in part to having already lost some teeth then kicking it over where the broken teeth were causing the gears to disintegrate, as pic shows.

I would b concerned. The small particles could b in the oil galleries.

Check the condition of the oil pump as well.

Good point - thanks.

 

[Betteron2]

78 rear plug

For those who couldn't see the visual... there's a quarter inch of chunky sludge on top of my rear plug - proper fucked - as they say.

 

[Jim]

78 rear plug

For those who couldn't see the visual... there's a quarter inch of chunky sludge on top of my rear plug - proper fucked - as they say.

What does the sump screen look like?

 

[Betteron2]

Only had time to fight front plug and open rear plug today...

 

[Betteron2]

What does the sump screen look like?

sump filter

I expected worse - though the washer found stuck to plug can't be a good thing...

 

[Jim]

Yeah, anyone's guess on the washer. Screen is torn. Look in Tech for a repair of that. All the sludge means regular maintenance... like oil changes, were pretty infrequent... but you probably already figured that out.

 

[Betteron2]

Ya, we'll have to see where the washer came from...

Appreciate the reply!

 

[Jim]

Yeah, anyone's guess on the washer. Screen is torn. Look in Tech for a repair of that. All the sludge means regular maintenance... like oil changes, were pretty infrequent... but you probably already figured that out.

Based on the fact that you have to pull the motor to fix the tranny and all the sludge you're seeing, I would probably pull the top end and freshen it up.
That's just my opinion though.