That Wrrrr Noise....

I concur with Peanut on this Mick.... lets just stay Put if gggGary wants to move it later he can ! LOL
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ok I made 2 videos that my Phone put's out as MP4 file format..... i can now even find them in the Stupid Phone ! ( thanks to my Kid !)
(because they actually don't exist as a file till you save them ...UH ? who designed that interface ? ) anyway.....
Peanut expect a PM ..... i'll take you up on you posting it for me !
or you can email me at and I'll throw the smallest .MP4 file at ya !
edited...and email removed because I don't need more Viagra adds !
LOL
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Bob......
 
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Trying to describe the sound of this noise is Kinda hard it's like the GTO 4 spd transmission on the late 60's early 70's when they were running dry.... or a Old truck transmission.... the bulk of the noise I don't think is coming from the transmission though....
I think mainly the left front sideplate .... I've never hurd another XS650 Like it..... and I want to stop this noise because it's there !!!!!!
I think it's a sign of something wrong, perhaps the thrust washers under the clutch ( I didn't take the clutch off)
or just perhaps all XS650's sound like this and my ears are registering sounds Strangely which is quite possible as I'm 50% deft now LOL
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Bob Kelly III said:
I concur with Peanut on this Mick.... lets just stay Put if gggGary wants to move it later he can ! LOL
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ok I made 2 videos that my Phone put's out as MP4 file format..... i can now even find them in the Stupid Phone ! ( thanks to my Kid !)
(because they actually don't exist as a file till you save them ...UH ? who designed that interface ? ) anyway.....
Peanut expect a PM ..... i'll take you up on you posting it for me !
or you can email me at and I'll throw the smallest .MP4 file at ya !
........

Bob......
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Bob I suggest that you remove your email address immediately chum or the netbots will grab it and you'll be buried in Viagra offers before you can turn round. never put your email address up on the net unless you disguise it like kellydadieo at gmail dot com
 
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Do as you wish, the other thread has a resolution, the originator has seen action and posted up after nearly two years...

Peanut, when you look at this issue as I have you can see I've found three threads silmilar, 2M in my opinion has a really good take on this. When you read the three I've linked to and the one 2M linked to it made sense to me.
I agree to disagree here...
Good luck Bob I'll let you know what I find.
 
No problem Mick ! Please don't take offence ! I seriously don't think it'a a tranny noise ishue though I guess it could be ...
I think 2M's suggestion of something by the clutch rubbing on the other thread is a darn good one .... I may yet have to pull the clutch side plate to investigate.....
Peanut said he would post my video ( if he gets it ) so Hopefully it should be posted soon and you can actually hear this Elusive Noise !
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Bob......
 
Michaelo said:
Do as you wish, the other thread has a resolution, the originator has seen action and posted up after nearly two years...

Peanut, when you look at this issue as I have you can see I've found three threads silmilar, 2M in my opinion has a really good take on this. When you read the three I've linked to and the one 2M linked to it made sense to me.
I agree to disagree here...
Good luck Bob I'll let you know what I find.
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sorry Mick I only found one thread on your link about 5th gear noise. Where are the others ?
 
That's a good thread Mick, condensed and to the point. You have linked it to this thread early on so anyone coming on here will be able to see it check it out. .

The good thing about those really good threads is when the problem is discussed and it becomes a question/diagnose/answer/diagnose/question/answer thread. Even if they aren't resolved completely the information is a condensed, easy to read, problem solving situation. Nothing worse than looking for information and having to read through Pages and pages only to find 99% of the posts are not relevant to the problem or diagnostic issues

That's why a link to a good thread is often the best way to get the information out there.............it would be a good thread to add to when or if you decide to get into your gearbox...........keep an eye on here, there may be some info to come out of here that may be relevant to your problem........

If you feel this thread is a companion thread relevant to your link then link this thread to the other one as well.

I used to do that a lot to try and keep information easy to find.............so many threads are about the same thing i gave up doing that
 
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Thank You Peanut ! Now the question is ....does that Wrrr sound sound Normal to you guys ?
it is most pronounced at idle but is ever present ( never goes away unless you stop the motor ! LOL)
is that what other XS650's sound like to you guys ? on every video I see ofan XS650 running I don't hear half that amount of noise
.....just to clarify, the engine in Peanuts video post is Mine a 1983 XS650 Heritage special
I couldn't post it so Peanut graciously offered to post it for me !
Bob.......
 
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No Mick I didn't do the screwdriver...I used a Pipe...but the results are the same it's noisy as hell !!!!
and you can't really pin point a particular sound because it is so loud..... I doubt it's a bearing as it has less than 8k miles on it....but stranger things have happened <Grin> this thing has always sounded like this to me another reason I am apt to think it's normal for this bike
I've had the top end off and side plate off looking for the culprit but found nothing amiss...however I did not have the clutch off
and I'm wondering if perhaps the clutch was assembled wrong from the factory, or perhaps my Brother inlaw took it to a shop that I didn't know about.... to me it just sounds like "Square gears" running dry ! it doesn't sound like something scraping like a clutch assembled wrong would be...i think....
none of the bikes I've ever owned has made this kind of noise its kind'a like you can hear everything going on inside the engine hehehehhe
maybe I just need louder exhaust pipes eh ? LOL
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so what kind of sound does a ball bearing make when they go bad? a tic tic,tic right ?
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bob
 
I found my Mechanics stethoscope by the way Top drawer of the bottom box where I put it 20 years ago ! LOL
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Bob.......
 
I think what you're hearing is the rusty wheels in your head turning, lol. Seriously, the later 6 plate clutch assembly does make more of a "whirring" noise, don't know why.
 
Wish I could help, Bob.
I've never heard a sound like that from an engine.
I'm interested in what you hear from a thorough listening at various places on the engine with your steth.
 
Oh, man. Just listened to the video.
What a GAWDAWFUL noise.
That ain't right!

I wouldn't run it anymore, except to nail down the zone with the stethoscope.

I'd start around the right side clutch cover. Not the cover itself, but the "hard points". Those would be the screwheads, boltheads, and the case areas where bolts and studs pass. You'll hear that gawdawful noise everywhere, so search for the loudest points.

Then, do the left side.

There's a few things that could do this, but I'll hold off the guessing until you've done the detective work...
 
Ahh Come on 2M ! don't make me do all kinds of detective work just to tell me they sound like that because the motor's running !!!!!
what an ornery fella you are tonight ! LOL ! I take it it don't sound bad !
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Bob........
 
Bob Kelly III said:
...they sound like that because the motor's running !!!!!
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Haha, yup, you nailed it Bob.
That horrendous sound will disappear if you just stop runnin' it.

Bob Kelly III said:
...what an ornery fella you are tonight ! LOL ! I take it it don't sound bad !
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Yeah, gittin' tired lately. Adopted the fish/fisherman philosophy. Seems that many of the sharp pencils here actually learn more if they're guided rather than fed. The ol' "lead a horse to water" kinda thing.

The guyz have been posting vids/sounds of their bikes lately. Good for comparisons. Lots of vids with sound of my bike in this thread:

http://www.xs650.com/threads/hp-oil-pump-from-mikes.40991/


Are you thinkin' maybe adding a buncha valve grinding compound to yer oil may force it to finish-grind the internals, and eliminate the noise?

Or have you already done that???
 
Hummm now there's an idea ! if I got real fine stuff it should put some ware into the engine without the work hardening stuff ! we don't want work hardening cuz it makes parts brittle ya see.... but where would I get a quart of fine valve grinding compound at ?
a 5 minute run with that much in there should just about do it don't ya think ???? LOL ( never run again !)
..... I'ed have to flush it out for at least a week after doing that or maybe fire up the engine with the sideplate off and stuff the garden hose in there ..... that'ed clean it good .... the water would act like a thin oil so no worries on what's left of the bearings after the valve grinding compound ! ...... then I'ed have to put oil in it real quick and ride it real hard to evaporate the water that's left in the engine.....
...... but something just don't seam right with this idea... I thought we WANT tight fitting parts ..... but I bet that noise would quiet down
...it'ed probably gain piston slap and rod knocks but it's a fair trade don't ya think ? LOL
maybe I should start a thread on How to take a Tight freshly rebuilt engine to Loose as a goose in 2 easy steps ??? HAHAHAHAH!
ooooh man that's just plane BAD !!! hehehhehehehhe!
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Disclaimer:
NO guys don't do that ...that's my weird sense of Humor ! its a Joke...get it ? all you'ed have left is a chewed up mess !
.....still it would be interesting to see what would fail first.... I bet the oil pump would be the first to go then the wrist pins would seeze
piston skirts would be paper thin real fast, rods would probably gain a 1/8" of up and down play....
I bet you could put on 100,000 miles in a minute or two by putting valve grinding compound in the oil ! ....
if you could keep it running because those first few minutes the oil pump would try to seize LOL
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Hay 2M You got lot's of engines around there ..... here's what ya could do to generate some Revenue !
start a Lotto and the one that guesses the length of the run time Wins the pot minus 30% for the perpetrator....er owner...
....HAHAHAHAHA !
$10.00 a ticket..... and chance to win big !!!!!
....you could take side bets as well on which component would fail first !
it must be past my bed time ! this is getting weird ! LOL
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Bob........
 
OK All kidding aside 2M..... you heard my bike and I heard yours ..... yours don't have that Wrrrrrrr in there at all ! so what's making that noise ?!?!?!?
...... your bike sounds sweet all you can hear is the exhaust .... My bike as all kinds of noise like a sewing machine going full tilt and under that is the exhaust note.... I know each bike is a bit different but geez !
it reminds me of a Ring dinger 2 stroke for all the noise...and yah they usually have allot of noise from the engine cases but this is a 4 stroker is shouldn't make that noise !
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Bob........
 

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