Top Speed?

Shortly after I got mine running and tuned the first time before I hardtailed it I was running a 666cc motor (3rd over) and 17/31 gears and I had no problems getting up to 115mph along side a vulcan 750 and started pulling away from him. Needless to say he was not happy about it. I still had a bit to go so I would say that 125 was not out of the question.
 
What's the frontal area?

This is an interesting point raised. My bike requires noticeably less throttle to maintain 75-80mph when I'm in my "speed tuck", ie., chest on tank, elbows on knees, full-face, etc. No doubt the full fairing helps as well! Does a small frontal area and overall "slippery" shape help? Absolutely, but why split hairs.

Those speeds in that position are out of my comfort zone for extended miles... I'm pretty most people here would agree that "top speed" is not why we each ended up with an XS. :laugh:
 
Anybody remember the (I believe Cycle World conducted) XS650 endurance test of the early `70s?
They ran it 100+ mph for 24 hours, oval track, no rest except to rotate riders, no maintenance breaks.

I was impressed...
 
110mph right next to my buddies vmax (widow maker) and still had some left on the throttle, plenty fast for me on a hard tail with springer front!!! Damn does that vmax move tho!!
 
All these "TOP SPEED" figures are off the speedo - so I'd reckon REAL top speed must be around the stated manufactures figure - around 105mph :thumbsup:

My first XS650B (in 1980) wouldn't show much over 100mph, no matter how long a run it had :laugh:

These bikes defo ain't about top speed, but they should cruise at 70mph easy enuff :bike:
 
My original '71 motor had a bad (tight and rusty) LH ex valve. That cam lobe and rocker seemed to take 'bout 100 miles to fail (read: sticky valve resisted opening, siezed stem in guide which ground the rocker into the lobe, snapped valve head off, eventually, and the head rattled around in the combustion chamber punching a hole in the piston). That was the longest 45-60mph 100 mile freeway stint ever. The farther I went the worse it ran :(. New '80 motor, runs as long as I want @ 70-90mph, or more in short bursts. :bike:
 
Anybody remember the (I believe Cycle World conducted) XS650 endurance test of the early `70s?
They ran it 100+ mph for 24 hours, oval track, no rest except to rotate riders, no maintenance breaks.

I was impressed...

I remember the one with the GSX-R750's. My dad had subscriptions to Rider and Cycle World back in the late 70's and early 80's. Wish I still had those magazines today. I'd PDF every page.

As far as 125-130 MPH? :bs: Not without doubling or more the stock output of the engine or installing a "dust bin" fairing. A stock SV650S (404 pounds WET) with a fairing on it will barely kiss 130 (GPS), and that's with over 65 horsepower and nearly 50 ft-lb of torque and the rider in a full tuck. Put a GPS or accelerometer on the bike and you will be less than thrilled with what you see. Mechanical driven speedometers are notoriously inaccurate. :wink2:
 
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...I'd PDF every page.

Wow, have I got a project for you!

As far as 125-130 MPH? :bs: Not without doubling or more the stock output of the engine or installing a "dust bin" fairing. A stock SV650S (404 pounds WET) with a fairing on it will barely kiss 130 (GPS), and that's with over 65 horsepower and nearly 50 ft-lb of torque and the rider in a full tuck.

Yep, that's about what it took for mine.

Wish Burt Munro could step in here with some insight...
 
I know for my chop it's getting faster the more I ride it.

When I first got it I couldn't even do 60 without it shaking apart. I sync'd the carbs, fixed the chain, and I could go 70. Redid the frame and I could go 75 80.

Still doesn't jump up there when I'm going 60 and want to pass a truck. But I find that on an open stretch I'm moving pretty fast. Cars on i80 usually do about 80 and I'm flowing with them.

I have just over 5000 miles on it now and it seems to be running a lot better. I think my fuel mileage is improving too. It seems like, and I haven't tested it, that I can get more than 90 miles per tank now. Back when I got it running good I tested 54MPG. I'll have to test it again soon as I get a new speedo.
 
My stock 78 standard with pamco cruises about 70...got it up to about 90 for a short run..afraid of blowing something...new to these bikes...my friend says there bullet proof...so might do the ton and more next ride to az for lotto tickets!
 
Shortly after I got mine running and tuned the first time before I hardtailed it I was running a 666cc motor (3rd over) and 17/31 gears and I had no problems getting up to 115mph along side a vulcan 750 and started pulling away from him. Needless to say he was not happy about it. I still had a bit to go so I would say that 125 was not out of the question.

Oh sure, 125 mph no problem at all! When I had mine up to 90 mph, there was plenty of throttle left, so I assume 135 maybe even 140 mph would be easy:D
 
There's several examples here for how bullet proof they are not. Granted, in many cases abuse and neglect are the cause. I know the full history of my 79, and I by no means think I should be out there strumming the thing to 7 grand. Old metal is old metal, no matter how well it's maintained. Even sitting dormant, aluminum and steel age, and aging has different effects on different metals.
It might surprise you to know that some parts of really big fucking aircraft are cut from a block of metal, then just sat on a shelf for 6 months to a year to see if they crack from internal stresses that cannot be detected, much less measured. That's crazy sounding stuff, but still the "state of the art" with some high strength alloys. I've seen progressive sections from a scanning electron microscope that show the crystalline structure of aluminum changing over the course of 10 years by nothing more than existing! Controlled environment storage, and the stuff changes, and the grain structure mutates over time, altering the properties of the metal. Although many times it's only altered on a finite level on the edge of the envelope, it's happening, regardless, and that kind of thing is in the back of my mind when working with naturally aged metal. Some of the metals in out 60 year old aircraft have naturally aged out of their standard properties. Age is a form of fatigue on an alloy. It may take longer to have it's effect, but it's coming, and can be compounded by conditions of storage and use.
 
Oh sure, 125 mph no problem at all! When I had mine up to 90 mph, there was plenty of throttle left, so I assume 135 maybe even 140 mph would be easy:D

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Do you think you need to make your own "high speed tires" when it gets that far?

These bikes came with "S" rated tires on them guys. That's 112 mph max sustained speed. Haven't heard of anyone slinging the tread off these old girls back in the day. :umm:

Get a GPS or a phone speedo app and go disappoint yourselves. :thumbsup:
 
Well, I wouldn't want to push it past 140 mph, as my speedometer only goes to 140 mph, and that would surely rip the needle off:D

Yeah, everyone knows these bikes were actually designed as high speed race bikes, but disguised by Yamaha, as commuter bikes, for insurance purposes:wink2:
 
For some reason my speedo (the one on the bike) indicates below actual speed. About 10mph lower. At first it was a bit confusing. Until I went by a few of those police speed checkers and realized "oops"... Now I sort of go by feel, I sure as hell am not going to attach my phone to the handlebars and watch it vibrate into oblivion.

In any case, 75+mph is some ass numbing, tooth filling loosening times right there...
 
The speedometer on my bike only goes to 120. So, Retiredgentleman, if I get one like yours, I should be able to take it to 140. That's some cheap horsepower there. Sorry for getting off topic Dozerdan, It's Friday, it's raining, and I have the day off.
 
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