British XS650'ers

[acebars]

Like firearms confiscation?

My grandparents said the same thing about the US, leaving me to witness this.

Yea you know the only thing to watch out about with older people is its a common thing to say and always has been.

The 90s towards the late 90s was actually a really good time for the US economically and period of stability, it's George W who literally put a vortex black hole in the budget and put the letter 'M' in the word moron.

I still think the US can recover and I'd be happy if you guys adopted isolationist policies, your economy would boom in a period of months, China wouldn't do so well.

The UK is in much more dire straits, we have literally been overrun and if things continue as they are English people will be a minority in their own country in 50 years, in London they already are, English people are being ethnically cleansed by unchecked immigration and some say it's already too late even if we let no one else in and I'm not talking about other Europeans..

 

[I am Carbon]

The UK is in much more dire straits, we have literally been overrun and if things continue as they are English people will be a minority in their own country in 50 years, in London they already are.

our leaders are leading us in that direction.
and we have less than 50 years more like 12 if memory serves

 

[xjwmx]

First Known Use of SHAN'T. 1664.

Last known use of "shan't" (in the U.S.). 1764.


When I read the sentence using shan't it seemed like Winston Churchill.

 

[acebars]

Last known use of "shan't" (in the U.S.). 1764.


When I read the sentence using shan't it seemed like Winston Churchill.

Seemed normal to me, I didn't notice anything!

 

[peanut]

The UK is in much more dire straits, we have literally been overrun and if things continue as they are English people will be a minority in their own country in 50 years, in London they already are, English people are being ethnically cleansed by unchecked immigration and some say it's already too late even if we let no one else in and I'm not talking about other Europeans..

any sensible person can see this surely ?. Enoch Powell predicted this situation 45 years ago ! in his so called 'Rivers of Blood' speech and look how right he was proved in the end. We have schools where some classes do not have a single white pupil !

I am so proud of my English heritage but in todays ridiculous 'politically correct society I am made to feel I should be ashamed of my heritage .

Where all this unchecked immigration will end who knows . I'll continue to stay out of the way in the Countryside where I still feel that I am living in my own Country.

 

[peanut]

Last known use of "shan't" (in the U.S.). 1764.


When I read the sentence using shan't it seemed like Winston Churchill.

well I'm 63 so I was born in Churchill's generation and I am also a Cockney so most of my language comes from many generations ago before tv was introduced !. its difficult to lose all of that .
When i talk to young people today I can scarcely understand what they say half the time and I constantly use words that have a completely different meaning in Modern society .

 

[dick thayer]

First post; This may piss people off. I'm hearing lots of whining out there about us Anglos (US and UK) being screwed by floods of non white immigrants. Fact is, both countries have been bending people over for centuries the world over. The UK subjugated most of the world for eons. The US began by killing the Indians for their land and in just a couple centuries we're the role model for the world to follow? Liberal white guilt? F that, I'm a realist. Payback can be a bitch.

 

[acebars]

Double post please delete

 

[acebars]

Sorry but couldn't disagree more, Britain was one of the most responsible powers in the world along with France, most of the ex-colonies were glad to be part of it and are success stories one way or another because of it, including the USA which would have not enjoyed the event of liberty with such ease and lack of barbarism as it would have under the thumb of other powers, Britain had no interest in oppressing a colony once it was clear they didn't want to be part of the Empire and the decision not to send more armies was not actually decided on the battlefield but in parliament in London, Britain was a trading Empire and you could still do trade with America even if it was no longer part of the commonwealth, if you are in doubt about this take a look take a look at what the Prussians and other nations were doing during to their dependencies during the same period.. Remember that America was born out of a simple tax and trade dispute and not as is commonly mistaken from any sort of nationalistic event or from oppression, no other Empire would have allowed their colony the liberty to simply revolt over a tax.

Let's take a look at some other successes, Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, India, to mention just some of the countries that one way or another are grateful to have been part of the British commonwealth, many of their schools, hospitals and rail systems are still the same ones that were founded during British rule, India was unified into peace and modernised after centuries of blood shed and wars.

And now let's take a look at some of the other Empires in the world less talked about, no one talks about the Turkish Empire one of the longest, brutal and oppressive Empires in the world, no one talks about forcing immigration into Turkey do they now?. The Muslim Empire started by Mohammed one of the cruelest and oppressive, no one talks about stamping out the Koran and Islam do they now? The German/Prussian Empire, see their abuse of the Poles, land theft, forced assimilation, double taxation and other cruelties such as beating Polish children in schools for speaking in Polish (and remember the Poles were socially far more advanced and civilised by modern standards than the Prussians and Russians who occupied them), or what Germans did in Namibia going hunting for black people for fun. The Belgians in Congo cutting off childs hands if they didn't collect enough rubber. Obscenities unheard of in the British Empire and the list goes on.

I have no sympathy for the Indians either, let's not pretend they were total victims, they had been spilling blood with each other for centuries and when it boils down to it and some study of them were backward savages and just as barbaric if not more than the white man who oppressed them.

I do however have sympathy for the black community in the US for the years of humiliation and slavery they endured being dragged away from their homeland and I don't think anyone is saying they should go back to Africa or aren't an integral part of the USA.

We now have a Muslim population in the UK who were not dragged over the Atlantic like the african slaves and many of them hate or are hostile to everything that is British and our liberal and progressive Western ideals, so what are they doing in England?

 

[xjwmx]

Fact is, both countries have been bending people over for centuries the world over... Payback can be a bitch.

You will do whatever you 'feel' you're justified in doing. Ponder what you justify or you're liable to become a wild man.

The fact is mankind has been bending people over since the first day. I don't know why Britain and the U.S. and etc. are held to a higher standard.

But at least our clan does not eat its enemies like wild men

 

[acebars]

The fact is mankind has been bending people over since the first day. I don't know why Britain and the U.S. are singled out but some of it is envy. It is an enviable culture.

Again don't agree with this sweeping statement, some cultures have been bending people over, the most exemplary civilised societies have not.

Here are some exemplary examples:

British Commonwealth, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austro-Hungary, Portuguese Empire (in its later period), French 3rd Republic.

Just as an example, Irish people made up half of the Royal Navy during Napoleon's era and many of them reached Admiral ranks and were not discriminated against, find me 1 non-Prussian officer in the brutal Prussian armies made up of children, abductees and men stolen from all over Europe, who endured torture and brutality almost daily during the same era.

 

[xjwmx]

^Actually you didn't quote the revised edition

But since you mentioned slavery in the U.S., I will remind you that slavery existed in the U.S. when it was British and exemplary and there was no U.S.

Our problems are of human nature, species-wide; issues of the human condition and human soul.

I do believe British values and sensibilities have shaped the world for the better in the last half millennium or so.

 

[dick thayer]

If British colonies were so keen to be a part of the Empire, why'd they all leave it? You can couch it any way you want but exploitation was the reason for coionization, pure and simple. BTW, I'm not so sure England "allowed" their American colony the "liberty" to "simply revolt over a tax".

 

[peanut]

First post; This may piss people off. I'm hearing lots of whining out there about us Anglos (US and UK) being screwed by floods of non white immigrants. Fact is, both countries have been bending people over for centuries the world over. The UK subjugated most of the world for eons. The US began by killing the Indians for their land and in just a couple centuries we're the role model for the world to follow? Liberal white guilt? F that, I'm a realist. Payback can be a bitch.

i think you are missing the point completely dick.
No one is complaining about non-white immigrants are they ? that is discriminatory!. you are the only one who mentioned this as far as I can see.

What I and others are complaining about is all immigrants whatever colour or ethnic background.

The US has a strict immigration control policy and always has had. We here in Britain are simply being swamped by immigrants. Our welfare benefits,Education systems , public housing, health services , Doctors, Police services , Customs and immigration services ...everything is being overwhelmed ! That is one of the biggest long term problems we are making for ourselves.

Thats without considering what problems we might be storing up for ourselves in the future with riots, ghettos, terrorism, drug and prostitution , child slavery etc .

We are in a deep world wide recession and here in the UK have poor exports, trade and low national reserves. We simply cannot afford this level of sustained immigration let alone the ridiculous levels of illegal immigration we currently have

 

[peanut]

If British colonies were so keen to be a part of the Empire, why'd they all leave it? You can couch it any way you want but exploitation was the reason for coionization, pure and simple. BTW, I'm not so sure England "allowed" their American colony the "liberty" to "simply revolt over a tax".

edited to remove offensive comment Apologies to all

 

[acebars]

If British colonies were so keen to be a part of the Empire, why'd they all leave it? You can couch it any way you want but exploitation was the reason for coionization, pure and simple. BTW, I'm not so sure England "allowed" their American colony the "liberty" to "simply revolt over a tax".

They didn't leave it the end of colonialism happened, the commonwealth still exists the Empire doesn't.

Britain was a trading Empire it didn't need to garrison it's colonies to stop them revolting it simply traded with them, i.e. only 5000 Englishmen were present in the whole of India at one point during British rule, have you read what the Germans or Russians did to the Poles when they revolted due to their horrendous conditions under their rule? Or the Turks to the Armenians? Do you know what bad treatment really is? America was being overtaxed due to wars with France, that's about as bad as it got and given its liberty enough to start the revolt that ended in independence.

Britain could have continued the war against American independence and with it's vast resources undoubtedly won despite the major military setbacks at the time, it's not a war that was financially worth fighting and like I said before Britain could have still traded with the North America which is exactly what happened. Sorry to blow steam out of American independence but to the well studied you will see what I'm saying is true.

During the war that America started in 1812 British forces behaved much better than American forces by deciding not to burn and pillage personal property (as US forces had done in Canada) but only governmental buildings i.e. those in America who chose aggression and started the war (including burning the white house) and showed further exemplary behaviour by allowing America the grace to return to status quo rather than sending the remaining forces from the Napoleonic wars to literally crush America an expensive and pointless effort as they would be incumbered with the significant cost of having to garrison the former United States, after this relations have mostly always been good between the two nations but it is my opinion that there has been more Anglo sympathy towards America in history than the other way around.

But since you mentioned slavery in the U.S., I will remind you that slavery existed in the U.S. when it was British and exemplary and there was no U.S.

I will remind you that Britain was de facto the first colonial Empire in the world to abolish slavery and an example to all, and the United States one of the last western countries to do so, it needed a civil war to happen.

 

[dick thayer]

I regret offending anyone. Don't take it personal. I do love my country. I just hate much of the shit the government does and did in my name.

 

[xjwmx]

I will remind you that Britain was de facto the first colonial Empire in the world to abolish slavery and an example to all, and the United States one of the last western countries to do so,

It was never as ingrained in Britain, and Britain never tried to abolish it in N. America!

Plus you sent Piers Morgan and Simon Cowell over here. WTF!

 

[TwoManyXS1Bs]

Sorry to blow steam out of American independence but to the well studied you will see what I'm saying is true.

I shan't dispute.

Limey friend of mine sent this to me during the Bush/Gore Presidential Election standoff.
Anybody else receive this notice?

Long Live Monty Python...


NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves,
we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states,
commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until
now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for
America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded.

A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules
are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide.
You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels.
Look up "vocabulary".
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises
such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient
form of communication. Look up "interspersed".

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents.
It really isn't that hard.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get
confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of
football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders
may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no
longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a
difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play
rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve
stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour
like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens
side by 2008.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they
give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware that there is a
world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians
have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "sh*t".

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national
holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your
own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Thank you for your cooperation.

God Save the Queen

 

[peanut]

well thats darn right rude twomany

I hope your friend sent the Limey a nice box of tea !