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its a crazy World isn't it ...... in a follow up to my post #174 about Athersclerosis and coronary heart disease I decided last week to take my own advice and requested a CAC scan from my Doctor who flatly refused. Said there was no evidence of any heart problems . I said to him you don't usually get much warning you just have a massive heart attack and fall down dead. grrrrrr
Anyway saw my Endocrinologist yesterday who took my blood pressure . 173/106 ! (stage 3 Hypertension) She raised an eyebrow pursed her lips and said she would take it again before I left . Second reading 190/ 87 ! and it hurt like hell as she struggled to get a reading on her machine.
I tried entering my results into an online heart attack risk calculator and there was an error .......check figures .......too high ! gulp
Reckon my Doctor will be eating his words Monday when he receives the consultants report.
If you don't hear from me for a week or two assume the worst lol
Anyway saw my Endocrinologist yesterday who took my blood pressure . 173/106 ! (stage 3 Hypertension) She raised an eyebrow pursed her lips and said she would take it again before I left . Second reading 190/ 87 ! and it hurt like hell as she struggled to get a reading on her machine.
I tried entering my results into an online heart attack risk calculator and there was an error .......check figures .......too high ! gulp
Reckon my Doctor will be eating his words Monday when he receives the consultants report.
If you don't hear from me for a week or two assume the worst lol
There are many reasons for high blood pressure. I had my BP checked, yesterday; 97/110 but I was going for infusion therapy for a bad case of accute colitis, and have lost some weight, so my low blood pressure is not an indication of a healthy constitution. If you don't have your own monitor, you probably should. When you heard the first number, it may have made you anxious and caused it to go even higher. If you're not on BP meds, talk to your cardiologist, soon. I'm guessing he will be more receptive to the notion of screening you with a CT calcium scoring test. But, it must be justified, or insurance won't pay and I'm not aware of the criteria. I remember Gary saying he paid for it, himself. As for me, The CT tech at my work did it for free to maintain proficiency in the procedure.its a crazy World isn't it ...... in a follow up to my post #174 about Athersclerosis and coronary heart disease I decided last week to take my own advice and requested a CAC scan from my Doctor who flatly refused. Said there was no evidence of any heart problems . I said to him you don't usually get much warning you just have a massive heart attack and fall down dead. grrrrrr
Anyway saw my Endocrinologist yesterday who took my blood pressure . 173/106 ! (stage 3 Hypertension) She raised an eyebrow pursed her lips and said she would take it again before I left . Second reading 190/ 87 ! and it hurt like hell as she struggled to get a reading on her machine.
I tried entering my results into an online heart attack risk calculator and there was an error .......check figures .......too high ! gulp
Reckon my Doctor will be eating his words Monday when he receives the consultants report.
If you don't hear from me for a week or two assume the worst lol
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sorry to hear about your colitus. My brother-in law also suffers from colitus and was on steroids . he found immediate relief when he changed from drinking lager to cider .!
My high blood pressure is not a passing thing unfortunately. Its been high for the past 2 years as a result of 20+ years undiagnosed T2 Diabetes and the associated Insulinemia Its long term high Insulin levels that are one of the major causes of high blood pressure ,coronary heart disease and strokes
My high blood pressure is not a passing thing unfortunately. Its been high for the past 2 years as a result of 20+ years undiagnosed T2 Diabetes and the associated Insulinemia Its long term high Insulin levels that are one of the major causes of high blood pressure ,coronary heart disease and strokes
A doctor worth his salt would have taken a blood pressure test there and then............
I see, and am also sorry for your condition. I just hope you are in frequent contact with a good cardiologist, associated with a hospital that specializes in CAD. And, once again, I'll say it is better to find an INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE DOCTOR which is someone to better coordinate your care as there are multiple issues to be dealt with.
private health care in the UK is probably every bit as expensive as it is in the UK and for the average retired person well beyond their means as I expect it probably is for you in the US.
Here in the UK we do have a free health care service the NHS and specialist care is available but you have to be referred by your Doctor .
I am unfortunate enough to have multiple conditions which require several specialist Consultants so I am potentially a very expensive prospect for the Local Doctors surgery and the NHS health care System. At 67 years of age I have got to the point of my life where I am considered less important than a 40 or even 50 year old person who is more productive so I will get less and less health care as I get older .
My Doctor like the majority of Doctors I have seen has the Philosophy 'if it ain't broke don't fix it ' so they wait for something to go wrong before they act....usually when it is already too late as it was with me .
The sensible approach for anyone in this day and age is to decide to be responsible for their own health and well being and not rely on their Doctor or the health System. That way you can be properly informed with all the latest scientific research and medical tests/ studies and published papers . Then you can decide to change your lifestyle to reduce the risks and improve your overall health.
The most intensive and comprehensive study available today about T2 Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome and coronary heart disease around the World is that of the IHDA a charity registered and funded privately by David Bobbit a wealthy Irish businessman. He has employed the services of a specialist Engineer Ivor Cummins to tour the World speaking to the leading specialists in their field collating all the available data there is and presenting it with comprehensive references to the sources so that you can verify the information and have the very latest facts and understanding .
Here in the UK we do have a free health care service the NHS and specialist care is available but you have to be referred by your Doctor .
I am unfortunate enough to have multiple conditions which require several specialist Consultants so I am potentially a very expensive prospect for the Local Doctors surgery and the NHS health care System. At 67 years of age I have got to the point of my life where I am considered less important than a 40 or even 50 year old person who is more productive so I will get less and less health care as I get older .
My Doctor like the majority of Doctors I have seen has the Philosophy 'if it ain't broke don't fix it ' so they wait for something to go wrong before they act....usually when it is already too late as it was with me .
The sensible approach for anyone in this day and age is to decide to be responsible for their own health and well being and not rely on their Doctor or the health System. That way you can be properly informed with all the latest scientific research and medical tests/ studies and published papers . Then you can decide to change your lifestyle to reduce the risks and improve your overall health.
The most intensive and comprehensive study available today about T2 Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome and coronary heart disease around the World is that of the IHDA a charity registered and funded privately by David Bobbit a wealthy Irish businessman. He has employed the services of a specialist Engineer Ivor Cummins to tour the World speaking to the leading specialists in their field collating all the available data there is and presenting it with comprehensive references to the sources so that you can verify the information and have the very latest facts and understanding .
private health care in the UK is probably every bit as expensive as it is in the UK and for the average retired person well beyond their means as I expect it probably is for you in the US.
Here in the UK we do have a free health care service the NHS and specialist care is available but you have to be referred by your Doctor .
I am unfortunate enough to have multiple conditions which require several specialist Consultants so I am potentially a very expensive prospect for the Local Doctors surgery and the NHS health care System. At 67 years of age I have got to the point of my life where I am considered less important than a 40 or even 50 year old person who is more productive so I will get less and less health care as I get older .
My Doctor like the majority of Doctors I have seen has the Philosophy 'if it ain't broke don't fix it ' so they wait for something to go wrong before they act....usually when it is already too late as it was with me .
The sensible approach for anyone in this day and age is to decide to be responsible for their own health and well being and not rely on their Doctor or the health System. That way you can be properly informed with all the latest scientific research and medical tests/ studies and published papers . Then you can decide to change your lifestyle to reduce the risks and improve your overall health.
The most intensive and comprehensive study available today about T2 Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome and coronary heart disease around the World is that of the IHDA a charity registered and funded privately by David Bobbit a wealthy Irish businessman. He has employed the services of a specialist Engineer Ivor Cummins to tour the World speaking to the leading specialists in their field collating all the available data there is and presenting it with comprehensive references to the sources so that you can verify the information and have the very latest facts and understanding .
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I watched the first installment and everybody should take a look. This is valuable insight and easy to understand and may make you think twice about the way you eat and also, your life style. Thank you, peanut.private health care in the UK is probably every bit as expensive as it is in the UK and for the average retired person well beyond their means as I expect it probably is for you in the US.
Here in the UK we do have a free health care service the NHS and specialist care is available but you have to be referred by your Doctor .
I am unfortunate enough to have multiple conditions which require several specialist Consultants so I am potentially a very expensive prospect for the Local Doctors surgery and the NHS health care System. At 67 years of age I have got to the point of my life where I am considered less important than a 40 or even 50 year old person who is more productive so I will get less and less health care as I get older .
My Doctor like the majority of Doctors I have seen has the Philosophy 'if it ain't broke don't fix it ' so they wait for something to go wrong before they act....usually when it is already too late as it was with me .
The sensible approach for anyone in this day and age is to decide to be responsible for their own health and well being and not rely on their Doctor or the health System. That way you can be properly informed with all the latest scientific research and medical tests/ studies and published papers . Then you can decide to change your lifestyle to reduce the risks and improve your overall health.
The most intensive and comprehensive study available today about T2 Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome and coronary heart disease around the World is that of the IHDA a charity registered and funded privately by David Bobbit a wealthy Irish businessman. He has employed the services of a specialist Engineer Ivor Cummins to tour the World speaking to the leading specialists in their field collating all the available data there is and presenting it with comprehensive references to the sources so that you can verify the information and have the very latest facts and understanding .
private health care in the UK is probably every bit as expensive as it is in the UK and for the average retired person well beyond their means as I expect it probably is for you in the US.
Here in the UK we do have a free health care service the NHS and specialist care is available but you have to be referred by your Doctor .
I am unfortunate enough to have multiple conditions which require several specialist Consultants so I am potentially a very expensive prospect for the Local Doctors surgery and the NHS health care System. At 67 years of age I have got to the point of my life where I am considered less important than a 40 or even 50 year old person who is more productive so I will get less and less health care as I get older .
My Doctor like the majority of Doctors I have seen has the Philosophy 'if it ain't broke don't fix it ' so they wait for something to go wrong before they act....usually when it is already too late as it was with me .
The sensible approach for anyone in this day and age is to decide to be responsible for their own health and well being and not rely on their Doctor or the health System. That way you can be properly informed with all the latest scientific research and medical tests/ studies and published papers . Then you can decide to change your lifestyle to reduce the risks and improve your overall health.
The most intensive and comprehensive study available today about T2 Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome and coronary heart disease around the World is that of the IHDA a charity registered and funded privately by David Bobbit a wealthy Irish businessman. He has employed the services of a specialist Engineer Ivor Cummins to tour the World speaking to the leading specialists in their field collating all the available data there is and presenting it with comprehensive references to the sources so that you can verify the information and have the very latest facts and understanding .
I found this in the paper, today. Blood pressure is treated differently by individual doctors, as the risks of treating it with meds may outweigh benefits, for each patient and according to your medical history, and they lowered the numbers to be considered high for everyone.
I think you need to be your own judge of what is 'Normal' these days.
I always ask the surgery to send me a copy of my blood test results and I use my own judgement based on my condition , symptoms and how I feel . I am not a statistic I am an individual different from everybody else and as an individual I need a specific appropriate treatment and lifestyle which I decide myself.
My Doctor told me that my blood sugar reading of 8.7 mmol/l was 'normal' what the ignorant fellow failed to ascertain was whether the test was a fasting blood glucose test ... which it was . Had he bothered to check he might have realised I was an undiagnosed Diabetic. Eventually I was drinking and peeing 10 lites + a day and collapsed with a blood sugar level of 28.4 mmol/l
My advice based on my experience is to never trust your health practitioner and be responsible for your own health...do your research and change your lifestyle or just take the pills your Doctor prescribes you and ignore the cause of your conditon ....its your choice
I always ask the surgery to send me a copy of my blood test results and I use my own judgement based on my condition , symptoms and how I feel . I am not a statistic I am an individual different from everybody else and as an individual I need a specific appropriate treatment and lifestyle which I decide myself.
My Doctor told me that my blood sugar reading of 8.7 mmol/l was 'normal' what the ignorant fellow failed to ascertain was whether the test was a fasting blood glucose test ... which it was . Had he bothered to check he might have realised I was an undiagnosed Diabetic. Eventually I was drinking and peeing 10 lites + a day and collapsed with a blood sugar level of 28.4 mmol/l
My advice based on my experience is to never trust your health practitioner and be responsible for your own health...do your research and change your lifestyle or just take the pills your Doctor prescribes you and ignore the cause of your conditon ....its your choice
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Scary thought. We were told in school and clinical training for x-ray to listen to the patient as this will help in treating them. After all, you ARE in your own body. A lot of times this is a doctor who is unwilling to take on more responsibility and pushes back against a patient.I think you need to be your own judge of what is 'Normal' these days.
I always ask the surgery to send me a copy of my blood test results and I use my own judgement based on my condition , symptoms and how I feel . I am not a statitic I am an individual different from everybody else and as an individual I need a specific appropriate treatment and lifestyle which I decide myself.
My Doctor told me that my blood sugar reading of 8.7 mmol/l was 'normal' what the ignorant fellow failed to ascertain was whether the test was a fasting blood glucose test ... which it was . Had he bothered to check he might have realised I was an undiagnosed Diabetic. Eventually I was drinking and peeing 10 lites + a day and collapsed with a blood sugar level of 28.4 mmol/l
My advice based on my experience is to never trust your health practitioner and be responsible for your own health...do your research and change your lifestyle or just take the pills your Doctor prescribes you and ignore the cause of your conditon ....its your choice
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Just like you could have a recall on your electric Harley, there can be recalls on your meds. Check the FDA website.There's information on Canadian drug recalls also if you just google "drug recalls"I think you need to be your own judge of what is 'Normal' these days.
I always ask the surgery to send me a copy of my blood test results and I use my own judgement based on my condition , symptoms and how I feel . I am not a statistic I am an individual different from everybody else and as an individual I need a specific appropriate treatment and lifestyle which I decide myself.
My Doctor told me that my blood sugar reading of 8.7 mmol/l was 'normal' what the ignorant fellow failed to ascertain was whether the test was a fasting blood glucose test ... which it was . Had he bothered to check he might have realised I was an undiagnosed Diabetic. Eventually I was drinking and peeing 10 lites + a day and collapsed with a blood sugar level of 28.4 mmol/l
My advice based on my experience is to never trust your health practitioner and be responsible for your own health...do your research and change your lifestyle or j
ust take the pills your Doctor prescribes you and ignore the cause of your conditon ....its your choice
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Thanks, Skull. Makes me wonder. Today, my doctor told me to get a medicine that costs $675.00 for 2 weeks supply. And I just got off another she prescribed for me that costs $900.00/ month for 3 months, that didn't even work. My insurance company refused to pay for it after Jan.1st, so that's why I'm switching. The money up front is for lectures and meals but what other money get's funneled to these doctors. The oxycontin scandal is big, here. A lot of doctors had big incentives to push those pills around. My dentist was giving them out like candy in 30 day supplies. They made me nauseous, but other people can't get enough. Thousands of people are overdosing a year on that shit. The money I spent on three bottles of pills could have bought a running 650. Since June, I got about $600 in parts for my '71, counting shipping costs.
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its a big dilema isn't it .!..
If you refuse to accept your Doctors advice and buy the meds they are likely to say why consult them in the first place if you don't trust their medical assessment !..... that could lead to mutual mistrust and soured relations . You could also maybe start getting some issues with your insurance Company too.
The whole of the Medical Profession has for decades been led into a Philosophy of treatment with meds approach rather than properly diagnose a condition and address the cause of the illness.
No Nations health should be dependent on how much money a citizen can afford to pay for life giving medical care and treatment but I can see the signs that the UK Government are trying to supplant the free NHS health care system with private health care in the long term
If you refuse to accept your Doctors advice and buy the meds they are likely to say why consult them in the first place if you don't trust their medical assessment !..... that could lead to mutual mistrust and soured relations . You could also maybe start getting some issues with your insurance Company too.
The whole of the Medical Profession has for decades been led into a Philosophy of treatment with meds approach rather than properly diagnose a condition and address the cause of the illness.
No Nations health should be dependent on how much money a citizen can afford to pay for life giving medical care and treatment but I can see the signs that the UK Government are trying to supplant the free NHS health care system with private health care in the long term
At times health care reminds me of the way some people go about trying to fix mechanical problems.
Just keep changing out different parts till it works or you run out of money and junk it.
As for the oxycontin thing, I had my hand surgery back in November and told the doctor that I didn't want to be taking that stuff if there was an option. She said fine, but just in case I will call in a prescription. If you don't feel the need for it just don't pick it up and there will be no charge.
Not sure if it was her skill with the knife and stitches or my pain tolerance levels but never felt the need for more that simple OTC meds and that was only one dose day for a couple days not the four times a day for those! Sometimes I think too many people have the idea they should not feel anything and want to be medicated to that point.
Several years back I had bad tooth pain and had to find a new dentist as the one I had been going to for years retired. Found one local, she was new to the practice so had a pretty open schedule, got in the next day. After a quick exam and X-rays said looks like we need to do a root canal. Now that is something I had heard was a painful procedure. But then the tooth pain was not fun either. So I said make it happen!
A shot or two of Novocain and she went to work. I won't say it was as much fun as riding an XS650 down a twisty country road on a warm fall afternoon but when she was finished tooth pain was gone and a couple hours latter the Novocain numbness was too!
Some people have a very bad aversion to dentists, my wife is a prime example, but I can say I have no problem in that regard. Might be the cute young ladies, well young for a 68 year old can be a relative term, who work there! Or maybe it a heredity thing. I recall my mom getting a dentist mad at her one time. Seems she dozed off while having a cavity filled without Novocain!
Just keep changing out different parts till it works or you run out of money and junk it.
As for the oxycontin thing, I had my hand surgery back in November and told the doctor that I didn't want to be taking that stuff if there was an option. She said fine, but just in case I will call in a prescription. If you don't feel the need for it just don't pick it up and there will be no charge.
Not sure if it was her skill with the knife and stitches or my pain tolerance levels but never felt the need for more that simple OTC meds and that was only one dose day for a couple days not the four times a day for those! Sometimes I think too many people have the idea they should not feel anything and want to be medicated to that point.
Several years back I had bad tooth pain and had to find a new dentist as the one I had been going to for years retired. Found one local, she was new to the practice so had a pretty open schedule, got in the next day. After a quick exam and X-rays said looks like we need to do a root canal. Now that is something I had heard was a painful procedure. But then the tooth pain was not fun either. So I said make it happen!
A shot or two of Novocain and she went to work. I won't say it was as much fun as riding an XS650 down a twisty country road on a warm fall afternoon but when she was finished tooth pain was gone and a couple hours latter the Novocain numbness was too!
Some people have a very bad aversion to dentists, my wife is a prime example, but I can say I have no problem in that regard. Might be the cute young ladies, well young for a 68 year old can be a relative term, who work there! Or maybe it a heredity thing. I recall my mom getting a dentist mad at her one time. Seems she dozed off while having a cavity filled without Novocain!
Exactly my point when I told you about an Integrative Medicine Doctor These doctors are holistic in a sense that they look at the patient as a whole and look for underlying causes for all their maladies. They do not prescribe prescription meds and, instead coordinate your care with other specialists, advising you on which type of doctor or doctors he or she thinks you would benefit by seeing and is also up on the best ones to see. They are your own best medical advisors. They are the medical expert on your side. This can save you money. The best integrative medicine doctors are affiliated with a good local hospital. Then they will consult with you after receiving the results from other doctors. They are like general contractors, one who coordinates all the facets of a construction job, hiring plumbers, carpenters, electricians and roofers. They answer to you and make sure a job gets done, properly. I was about to see my integrative medicine doctor for a semi-annual check up before I suddenly got sick. (It suddenly started with an acute upper respiratory infection.) I will see her when I recover from the colitis to make sure my body's vitamin/ mineral content has not been affected, and get some advice for aftercare.
My mom was the same way. But me, I need gas to get my teeth cleaned. The nerves are exposed at the base of my teeth. Something was learned about the threshold of pain in that the very young and old are more sensitive to pain and, in general, certain nationalities can tolerate more pain. If I remember, they were Irish, English, Scots, and Germans, among others.
Well that might explain things some Mom was pure English and Dad was half German! Oh and my first wife was half Irish so that is why we were together for close to 30 years and still friends!
