(yawn) ...just another new (old) guy...

rick1956

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Hi all,

I'm just making a "Hello, I'm the new guy" announcement. I'm new to Yamaha 650 twins, but I'm no newbie to motorcycles. I've been on or around them since way before I could touch the ground sitting on one. My dad would put me on his hot-rodded Honda S-90 and push off when I was ready, laughing his ass off when I would eventually fish-tail into a slow-speed crash. Dad had Honda one-lunger's around all the time, working on them for extra cash, and to supply his own bikes with parts and upgrades. It was only natural that I would find myself doing the same sort of thing when I grew older.
I spent a couple years restoring an old Honda 305 Superhawk while I was in the Air Force, stationed in North Carolina. One of my parts-chasing adventures led me to a nice old 305 Scrambler that spent some time with me until it was stolen a few years later. I went without bikes for a while (other than my Honda 250 Elsinore I rode in the boonies) because my lifestyle went into family-building mode. In 2003 I bought myself a Harley Softail. I still have it, but I have grown complacent of the heavy, cruiser thing. It's still great for a two-up ride up into the Cascade Mountains on a nice day, but I needed a change. More like an option. I needed something that offered a little solo excitement when I felt the need. Because I am a lover of old things, I didn't want anything too new.
After looking at lots of types and styles of bikes for a couple years, I just plunked down a whopping $480 for an 81 xs650 on Craigy's List last week.
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It doesn't seem abused in any way, but as seems to happen with many of them, it has spent all of its time outdoors (although under cover). That means there is moisture evidence in all the usual places, but none of it is too bad. It hasn't run in a few years, but it appears that the main reason for that is electrical. The guy I bought it from was constantly talking about the wiring "There should be positive here, wouldn't you think?" he said, pointing to a wire.
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I wasn't concerned with that--I was too busy checking for items missing, stuck, or broken.
It's not a great time to buy a project bike with the holidays staring us in the face, but it's out there in the shop when I find the time, patiently waiting its turn next to the hawg. I've still got to finish up the wiring on the Harley (I'm splitting the starting/accessories relay off into two relays for improved starting) before I can really tackle the 650.
Plans? I'm the type of guy that likes 'clean & neat' when it comes to bikes. Take off all the extra shit that doesn't help it in any way, but don't remove anything that's welded on (in case I want it back to bone-stock later).
About all I know right now is that it has decent compression, it rolls, and the tank is good inside (unlike outside).
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Having said all that, I'll be around, lurking and observing!
Rick
 
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Welcome! We like pics. Happy wrenching on your new ride.
 
Thanks azman857, I had already uploaded a bunch of crappy pics to my media files area, and my post led me to believe I was embedding a link to them at the bottom of the post. Obviously, I was wrong. I didn't want to duplicate pics by posting one here, but I guess I shoulda.

Thanks 'Dude. I like to believe the theft of my 305 Scrambler saved my life. That bugger rode like a lumber truck with no suspension. It was a hand full!
 
LeMay.jpg Welcome...yer near Tacoma if I recall. I lived out there back in the day (Lincoln High, rah rah). Use to be a cycle boneyard in Fife..?...
I was out there a couple years ago to mooch off relatives ( :) ) and attend the "LeMay" museum cycle show (took first in the café class) also the award for the guy who drove (trailered) the farthest to attend.
From my time out there I discovered there's a vibrate and active vintage m/c scene. Several nice coffee shops catered to the motorcyclist. " Backfire " evenings in Seattle was interesting. But, the roads.. freeways in particular are not motorcycle friendly.
Post photos of the XS.... ! the talent and knowledge on this board can solve any issue that needs to be address'd. As for electrics... ? if I put batteries in a flashlight and the light comes in... Genius !
 
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View attachment 108856 Welcome...yer near Tacoma if I recall. I lived out there back in the day (Lincoln High, rah rah). Use to be a cycle boneyard in Fife..?...
I was out there a couple years ago to mooch off relatives ( :) ) and attend the "LeMay" museum cycle show (took first in the café class) also the award for the guy who drove (trailered) the farthest to attend.
From my time out there I discovered there's a vibrate and active vintage m/c scene. Several nice coffee shops catered to the motorcyclist. " Backfire " evenings in Seattle was interesting. But, the roads.. freeways in particular are not motorcycle friendly.
Post photos of the XS.... ! the talent and knowledge on this board can solve any issue that needs to be address'd. As for electrics... ? if I put batteries in a flashlight and the light comes in... Genius !

Exactly right, Motormike... Fife is between Edgewood and Tacoma, so it's just down the street basically. Lots of bike interest in the NW, but as you said: stay away from the rush hour areas of traffic flow. Head for the hills man... and there are lots of them to head to.
 
Thanks azman857, I had already uploaded a bunch of crappy pics to my media files area, and my post led me to believe I was embedding a link to them at the bottom of the post. Obviously, I was wrong. I didn't want to duplicate pics by posting one here, but I guess I shoulda.

Thanks 'Dude. I like to believe the theft of my 305 Scrambler saved my life. That bugger rode like a lumber truck with no suspension. It was a hand full!
I installed a sissy bar, which improved the suspension ..:laugh2:

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Welcome Rick. I only been on this site for a couple of months myself. I'd kill to have my old Superhawk back...
There's a lot of talent here when you need the help.

Oh... and just to repeat, we like pics;)
 
The first bike I ever put a wrench to was a mid 60's Superhawk. PO put CB350 pistons in it. Engine out of the frame for $35. This was about '77 or so. Bought a Chiltons or Clymer repair manual and got it back together and the engine installed in the frame. Got it running well and never rode it. Had a transfer to RAF Lakenheath. In the late 90's my backyard was the home of wayward motorcycles. In that collection was a CB and CL77. Both of them frozen motors. In hindsight I could had one of them running, but life was getting in the way...
 
Welcome Rick - great to have another Genuine Classic of the 50s here!

That 650 appears to be a solid buy and you’ll have it thumping away in short order.

Looks like you’ve got yourself a ballgame!

Pete

PS - pictures are great - did anyone mention that?
 
JimD54 I worked your F-111A's when they were in the 474 TFW at Nellis. At the 'Heath I worked the F-111F. I hated both of them. General Disaster, err, General Dynamics next product, the F-16 was everything the F-111 wasn't. Easy to work on. Panels frequently removed were well placed. NO NUT AND BOLT PANELS! Was not hard to work on.They were retired the same year I did. F-4's too. The dirtiest bird I worked...I would hear and see the F-4 fly around here until '13 when the drone program for them was ended. I kinda miss them...Along with Hueys...
 
JimD54 I worked your F-111A's when they were in the 474 TFW at Nellis. At the 'Heath I worked the F-111F. I hated both of them. General Disaster, err, General Dynamics next product, the F-16 was everything the F-111 wasn't. Easy to work on. Panels frequently removed were well placed. NO NUT AND BOLT PANELS! Was not hard to work on.They were retired the same year I did. F-4's too. The dirtiest bird I worked...I would hear and see the F-4 fly around here until '13 when the drone program for them was ended. I kinda miss them...Along with Hueys...
Awsome!
A's and F's... check. Also the D's, E's and EF's. F4's... C's, D's, E's and Recce's
Oh.... and I crewed A UH-1N for a couple of yrs.
To be honest... I'd give anything to be back on the ramp. I miss it.
 
Hi all,

I'm just making a "Hello, I'm the new guy" announcement. I'm new to Yamaha 650 twins, but I'm no newbie to motorcycles. I've been on or around them since way before I could touch the ground sitting on one. - - - . Because I am a lover of old things, I didn't want anything too new.
After looking at lots of types and styles of bikes for a couple years, I just plunked down a whopping $480 for an 81 xs650 on Craigy's List last week.
101158-03d9ee3552c9c5e25897951373e457f3.jpg

It doesn't seem abused in any way, but as seems to happen with many of them, it has spent all of its time outdoors (although under cover). That means there is moisture evidence in all the usual places, but none of it is too bad. It hasn't run in a few years, but it appears that the main reason for that is electrical. The guy I bought it from was constantly talking about the wiring "There should be positive here, wouldn't you think?" he said, pointing to a wire.
101334-30a8d6c14c460869dc0152c5363a7b0e.jpg

I wasn't concerned with that--I was too busy checking for items missing, stuck, or broken.

Plans? I'm the type of guy that likes 'clean & neat' when it comes to bikes. Take off all the extra shit that doesn't help it in any way, but don't remove anything that's welded on (in case I want it back to bone-stock later).
About all I know right now is that it has decent compression, it rolls, and the tank is good inside (unlike outside).
101343-3605a6fdb248fc6f6653d0a03159fc6a.jpg

Having said all that, I'll be around, lurking and observing!
Rick

Hi Rick and welcome,
no airforce memories here, I was 3rd generation on the civilian side.
My dad built Bristol Bulldogs in the 1930s my Pa-in-Law built Bristol Beaufighters in the 1940s and I (and 10,000 other guys) built the Concorde in the 1960s.
Bikewise I was a Velocette rider in the UK and a Triumph & Honda rider in Canada until I bought my NOS 1984 XS650 in 1986 because it looked like a Matchless.
So back to your XS650. 1981 is a good year even if it lacks the 1980's hydraulic rear brake it does have the electronic ignition so there's no points or mechanical advance mechanism to worry about.
Which means there's also nothing except the ends of the camshaft under the points covers so don't have a WTF? moment when you remove them.
And DON'T drink the PMA koolade. The stock system is better.
XS650 parts swap like LEGO. Any drum brake rear and any post '73 front wheel drops right in.
All Special gas tanks and post '72 (1 gallon larger) Standard gas tanks interchange.
1980 & newer "lift off" seats interchange but they don't look the same, the newer the year, the taller the hump.
 
I recall the fuse block on the Special's was a issue... the fuse holders grow weak.. create a resistance... Mike's sells a replacement block..I got one from the local h/ware store.... $7.00.... perhaps pull all the major electrical unions.. clean and lube with " dielectric "....(sp?).... I did that with the 82' I pick'd up awhile back.
It had 3 electrical gremlins.... rotor, side stand safety switch and the fuse block.... I lost a lot of grey matter before I figured it all out.
will this be returned to stock.. daily rider..?... I decided to keep mine stock.. even the goofy handlebars...
 

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