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Hugh's HandBuilt
Hello, first of thank u for the info in the thread. My question is will this work with my pamco electronic ignition? Thanks, Wayne.
Yep.... It will work just dandy
Hello, first of thank u for the info in the thread. My question is will this work with my pamco electronic ignition? Thanks, Wayne.
Is this still a dependable option to attempt? It appears to be a whole lot cheaper then buying the PMA's designed specifically for the xs650. Looks like I can pick up everything for about 120 bucks. Except for the mount.
You can notch down the stator plat like i did and it will fit just fineNOTE TO READER: I purchased the Kawasaki Drifter/Vulcan stator from the list above and it was too thick, causing the copper coil wires to rub and wear on the interior of the rotor/flywheel as it rotated. It was toast causing my charging system to only be putting out 5 volts +/-, running horribly. Purchased the Suzuki VZ800 97-04 Marauder stator because it looked very similar to the one Hugh's Handbuilt uses, with a tighter lower profile coil wrap. I gained the clearance I needed and after replacing the battery (1.3Ah 12V) which was now toast as well from the ground out, it fired up and ran like a top. Just some advice from someone who found out the hard way by buying the cheapest stator on the list of recommended.
NOTE TO READER: I purchased the Kawasaki Drifter/Vulcan stator from the list above and it was too thick, causing the copper coil wires to rub and wear on the interior of the rotor/flywheel as it rotated. It was toast causing my charging system to only be putting out 5 volts +/-, running horribly. Purchased the Suzuki VZ800 97-04 Marauder stator because it looked very similar to the one Hugh's Handbuilt uses, with a tighter lower profile coil wrap. I gained the clearance I needed and after replacing the battery (1.3Ah 12V) which was now toast as well from the ground out, it fired up and ran like a top. Just some advice from someone who found out the hard way by buying the cheapest stator on the list of recommended.
I see what you’re doing here and it changed the game for me. Maybe someone has said something in a post but there’s 14 pages. I see what you are doing with the regulator but what about the rectifier?Wiring is now the the only major thing left. Hook up the 3 wires coming from the Stator to the 3 yellow wires on the regulator. It doesn't matter which wire go where, just make sure all the yellow wires are used. Red goes to the battery/condenser and green is a ground. You are all done :cheersmate:
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Obviously you'll need to mount the regulator somewhere, but this is all for the how-to.
Had lots of folks who wanted a wiring diagram. This is ONLY for the charging system, the rest of the wiring on your ride is up to you.
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Reinstall your cover, route wires away from the chain (duh) and reinstall your controls and all that mess you took off to get started.
NOTES: If you are using a TCI ignition, you'll need to change over to points or Pamcopete's awesome setup before doing this modification. You'll get the timing working first, get it all timed properly and use the timing marks from your setup to reinstall the timing tab on the side cover.
Here is the list of sourced Stators that should work. I've never had to buy a new one for any reason, they work just fine used off of ebay/CL. I stole this list from another source, be sure to double check bolt patterns and that a Stator has 3 Yellow wires coming out of it (mine had 3 black, but it works just the same, you just need a 3 Phase Stator)
MAKE SURE TO GET THE CORRECT PART NUMBERS FROM A STATOR!!! THIS LIST IS NOT 100% ACCURATE. CORRECT STATOR MEASUREMENTS SHOULD BE 103mm X 42mm X 20mm
YAMAHA (ESR080)
Honda CBR600 F1 86-90
Honda VF500 84-85
Kawasaki VN800 Vulcan 00-05
Kawasaki VN800 Classic 01-06
Kawasaki VN800 Drifter 01-05
Kawasaki ZL600 86-87
Kawasaki ZX600, ZX-6 Ninja, ZZR600 85-04 [!!NOT ZX6-R, ZX6-RR 98+!!]
Suzuki VS800 92-07
Suzuki VX800 90-93
Suzuki VZ800 97-04
Suzuki LT250 91-96
Suzuki LT4WD 91-96
Suzuki LT-F4WD 91-98
Yamaha XV250 Route66 88-90
Yamaha XT600 90-95
TAGS: XS650 XS 650 Big Bore 750 Kit Charging System Permanent Magnet Alternator Banshee Hugh'sHandBuilt Hugh Owings Chopper Bobber Wiring Swap Stator Rotor PMA 3 Phase Regulator
It uses a "combined" regulator/rectifier. The 3 yellow wires go to the rectifier.I see what you’re doing here and it changed the game for me. Maybe someone has said something in a post but there’s 14 pages. I see what you are doing with the regulator but what about the rectifier?
I get that much. I misspoke. I was referring to the regulator. It’s obvious that if you’re replacing everything else you’ll want to replace the old and most likely dying regulator. It has three wires coming from it. Green, brown, and black. Typically both of these pieces are combined now so what regulator/rectifier would we be using? If we’re just using the rectifier then what are we doing with the regulator?It uses a "combined" regulator/rectifier. The 3 yellow wires go to the rectifier.
On a stock XS650 charging system the voltage regulator controls the alternator rotor excitation through the green wire. It isn't going to work with a PMA AFAIK.I get that much. I misspoke. I was referring to the regulator. It’s obvious that if you’re replacing everything else you’ll want to replace the old and most likely dying regulator. It has three wires coming from it. Green, brown, and black. Typically both of these pieces are combined now so what regulator/rectifier would we be using? If we’re just using the rectifier then what are we doing with the regulator?
So those wires that go to the fuse box are useless?On a stock XS650 charging system the voltage regulator controls the alternator rotor excitation through the green wire. It isn't going to work with a PMA AFAIK.