Fazer Blue Spot Caliper

[Mellowyellow]

So Ive been told that 4 and 6 piston calipers dont fit on front spoked rims. It will interfere with the spokes. I was hoping to use this brembo caliper for a single disc front brake and a 11mm master cylinder like this on in picture. I think it should work? and if it doesnt any suggestions? also have this Ducati disc on order. Thanks Guys

 

[Mellowyellow]

Also need to use some sort of remote master so that I can use a cable of my brake lever. Hope it all works

 

[KevC]

Anythings possible Mellowyellow, there is not much clearance between the cast spokes & my blue spot caliper, about 1mm if I remember. But I have seen that very same caliper on an SR500 with a spoked wheel, see HEREand HERE for some variations on calipers on XS's
Good luck & if I can help in any way, just ask
Cheers Kev

 

[Mellowyellow]

Thanks Kev, I am sure I will need some help once I get all the parts together but its good to know it should work and I did some research and it looks like that brake master should work perfect for my plans (should be 11mm).

 

[KevC]

Found a nice 11mm front master cylinder from a Triumph Legend TT2000, its a nissin make and has a mirror mount too cost £15 off ebay
Hopefully get it fitted this weekend & let ya know what its like

Thats the size of master cylinder I bought for my set up Mellowyellow
Still aint got around to fitting it due to work & the carb mounts splitting again
But hope to get it fitted within the next week or two & ill let you know what the feel is like
(did you look at the vintage brake chart?) HERE

 

[Mellowyellow]

Thanks Kev, Yup I took a look at the chart. Just ordered everything I think im going to need off ebay now its just waitin on the parts (as always).

Then I will have to get down to building the bracket and spacers.

 

[Mellowyellow]

Heres what I got comming from ebay (good price) and I wont need half of it but like i said the price was right.

 

[Mellowyellow]

I wonder if i need to order up these caliper spacers from mikes? http://www.mikesxs.net/products-66.html#products
Part #30-3066 or am I just wasting money?

 

[yamaman]

They'd be unlikely to help you mate, you'll need to fit the disc & set the caliper in position before you know what you need to do.

 

[C-Los SD]

What model/year are people using for the Fazer Blue spot calipers? Thanks

 

[Mellowyellow]

List of Bikes with 320mm rotors and 80mm 6 bolt circle

APRILIA AF 1 FUTURA 125 1990-1992
APRILIA RS 125 2006-2008
APRILIA RS EXTREMA REPLICA 125 1993-2005
APRILIA PEGASO FACTORY 660 2005-2007
APRILIA PEGASO STRADA 660 2005-2007
APRILIA PEGASO TRAIL 660 2005-2007
APRILIA SHIVER 750 2007-2008
APRILIA MANA 850 2007-2008
APRILIA RSV - SP 1000 1998-2000
APRILIA RSV - SP 1000 2001-2004
APRILIA RSV R 1000 1998-2000
APRILIA RSV R 1000 2001-2004
APRILIA RSV R FACTORY 1000 2004-2008
APRILIA SL FALCO / R 1000 2000-2004
APRILIA TUONO R 1000 2006-2007
APRILIA TUONO R FACTORY 1000 2006-2008
BENELLI TORNADO LE 900 2002-2003
BENELLI TORNADO RS 900 2004-2005
BENELLI TORNADO TRE 900 2003
BENELLI TNT CAFE' RACER 1130 2006-2008
BENELLI TNT SPORT 1130 2006
BENELLI TNT TITANIUM 1130 2005-2006
BENELLI TORNADO TRE 1130 2007-2008
BIMOTA V-DUE 500 1997>
BIMOTA YB9 SRI 600 1996-1999
BIMOTA SUPERMONO 650 1995-1996
BIMOTA SUPERMONO BIPOSTO 650 1996-1997
BIMOTA DB 2 SR EDIZIONE FINALE 900 1997-1998
BIMOTA MANTRA DB3 900 1995-1998
BIMOTA DB 4 904 1998-1999
BIMOTA DB4 I.E. 904 2000>
BIMOTA SB 8 K 1000 2000-2004
BIMOTA SB 8 K 1000 2005>
BIMOTA SB 8 R 1000 1997-1999
CAGIVA MITO EURO 2 125 2004-2006
CAGIVA MITO EV 125 1994-1999
CAGIVA MITO EV 6 speed 125 1999-2000
CAGIVA N1 PLANET 125 1998-2003
CAGIVA RAPTOR 125 2004
CAGIVA SUPERCITY 125 1997-1999
CAGIVA RIVER 500 1995-1998
CAGIVA RIVER 500 1999
DUCATI MONSTER 400 2005-2008
DUCATI MONSTER 600 1993-1999
DUCATI MONSTER 600 2000-2001
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 600 1994-2001
DUCATI MONSTER 620 2002-2005
DUCATI MONSTER DARK 620 2005
DUCATI SPORT 620 2003
DUCATI MONSTER 695 2007
DUCATI 748 748 1999-2002
DUCATI MONSTER 750 1996-2002
DUCATI SPORT 750 1974-1976
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 750 1999-2002
DUCATI SPORT 800 2003
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 800 2003-2004
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 800 2005-2007
DUCATI 851 BIPOSTO 851 1991-1992
DUCATI SPORT 851 1990
DUCATI 888 888 1993-1995
DUCATI MH EVOLUZIONE 900 2001-2002
DUCATI MONSTER 900 1993-1999
DUCATI MONSTER 900 2000-2002
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 900 1992-1997
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 900 1998-2002
DUCATI 916 BIPOSTO / STRADA / SP / SENNA 916 1994-1998
DUCATI 916 SPS 916 1997
DUCATI 996 996 1999-2001
DUCATI 998 998 2002-2003
DUCATI SPORT CLASSIC PAUL SMART 1000 2006
DUCATI ST3 1000 2005-2007
DUCATI SUPERSPORT 1000 2003-2006
GILERA GFR 125 1993-1994
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 2005
LAVERDA GHOST 650 1996-1997
LAVERDA GHOST 650 1998>
LAVERDA SPORT 650 1995-1997
LAVERDA SPORT 650 1998-2002
LAVERDA STRIKE 750 1998-1999
MOTO GUZZI BREVA 750 2004-2005
MOTO GUZZI NEVADA CLASSIC 750 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI DAYTONA 1000 1991-1994
MOTO GUZZI DAYTONA RACING 1000 1996>
MOTO GUZZI BREVA 1100 2005-2006
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL 1100 1997-1998
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV SPECIAL 1100 1999-2000
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA EV TOURING 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA JACKAL 1100 2000>
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA STONE 1100 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI CALIFORNIA TITANIUM 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI GRISO 1100 2006
MOTO GUZZI SPORT 1100 1996-1999
MOTO GUZZI V10 CENTAURO / GT 1100 1997-1999
MOTO GUZZI V11 CAFE' SPORT BALLABIO 1100 2003-2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 COPPA ITALIA 1100 2003-2004
MOTO GUZZI V11 COPPA ITALIA 1100 2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 LE MANS SPORT-NAKED 1100 2002-2005
MOTO GUZZI V11 LE MANS-NAKED 1100 2001-2002
MOTO GUZZI V11 SPORT 1100 1999-2000
MOTO GUZZI V11 SPORT 1100 2001
MOTO MORINI 9 1/2 1200 2007
MOTO MORINI CORSARO 1200 2006-2007
YAMAHA DTR 125 1989-1991
YAMAHA TZR 125 1999>
YAMAHA TZR R 125 1992-1998
YAMAHA FZX-ZEAL 250 1993>
YAMAHA TDR 250 1987-1992
YAMAHA TZ GP 250 1996-1997
YAMAHA TZR 250 1989-1992
YAMAHA SRX 400 1991-1995
YAMAHA SRX 400 1996>
YAMAHA SZR 660 1996>
YAMAHA FZR 1000 1989-1991
YAMAHA FZR 1000 1992-1993
YAMAHA FZR GENESIS 1000 1987-1989
YAMAHA XJR 1200 1995>
YAMAHA XJR 1300 1998

Bikes with 298mm Rotors and 80mm 6 bolt circle

Yamaha
FZR 400 RRSP/RR 91-92 298
FZR 600 W/WC 89
FZR 600 AC/RA/RAC/RBC/RD/RE/REC/RF/RFC/RG/RGC/RH/RHC/RJ/RJC/RK/RKC/RL/RLC 90-00
YZF 600 RG/RGC/RH/RHC 95-96
TDM 850 D/DC/E/EC 92-93
FJ 1200 W/WC/A/B/AD/ADC/AE/AEC/D/DC 89-92
APRILIA
RST 1000 Futura 01-05
DUCATI
900 Supersport 89-90
907 IE 90-91

Not sure how accurate this info is because its second hand but it seems to be from a reliable source. Hope it helps

 

[inxs]

- what about offset?

 

[Mellowyellow]

Great question and i have no idea, i think for myself im going to have to wait until i get the disc and then find out what the offset is. My disc is off a 1999 DUCATI 750 SS once I get all the parts together I will let you no what the offset is and keep you guys posted on the progress.

 

[C-Los SD]

Sorry, I meant which year calipers should I be looking for? I know they are Yamaha, but which model/year. They kinda look like the calipers I had on my 04 R6.

 

[KevC]

Great question and i have no idea, i think for myself im going to have to wait until i get the disc and then find out what the offset is. My disc is off a 1999 DUCATI 750 SS once I get all the parts together I will let you no what the offset is and keep you guys posted on the progress.

Mellowyellow, my disc (bought new) came with an aluminium adaptor to offset it to the same position as the standard XS disc, I can strip it down next weekend & take pics & dimensions if this will help but it depends on the Ducati disc offset. On my caliper adaptor I recessed it around the fork leg mounts by 4mm (same effect as 4mm spacers placed between adaptor & caliper.)(see previous posts on page 1 for pic)
Once again this will vary depending on your set up. You may need to offset the rotor more to clear spokes etc.......

Sorry, I meant which year calipers should I be looking for? I know they are Yamaha, but which model/year. They kinda look like the calipers I had on my 04 R6.

As far as I know all Yamaha blue spot calipers are the same whether off Fazer 600, Fazer 1000, R6 or R1. (they are handed of course, left or right)They changed to Gold spot later, dont know if these are different

 

[C-Los SD]

KevC, it's too bad you aren't making these caliper adapters. I would pay good money for a set. The Fishhead Brakes are nice, but he doesn't sell the calipers adaptors solo...only the whole kit, which I don't need. It's funny, I didn't get aluminum spacer with my XS rotors, how thick is it. Mine fit ok.

Thanks

 

[Mellowyellow]

Mellowyellow, my disc (bought new) came with an aluminium adaptor to offset it to the same position as the standard XS disc, I can strip it down next weekend & take pics & dimensions if this will help but it depends on the Ducati disc offset. On my caliper adaptor I recessed it around the fork leg mounts by 4mm (same effect as 4mm spacers placed between adaptor & caliper.)(see previous posts on page 1 for pic)
Once again this will vary depending on your set up. You may need to offset the rotor more to clear spokes etc.......


Thanks for the info Kev, as far as strippin you bike down for me thats a very nice offer but it will be a couple weeks before I get all the parts and probley another couple weeks before I find time to get to it. Once I get all the parts I will more than likely have a couple questions for but until then its just a waiting game (as always)
Thanks again bud.

 

[KevC]

KevC, it's too bad you aren't making these caliper adapters. I would pay good money for a set. The Fishhead Brakes are nice, but he doesn't sell the calipers adaptors solo...only the whole kit, which I don't need. It's funny, I didn't get aluminum spacer with my XS rotors, how thick is it. Mine fit ok.

Thanks

Yeah, wish I was in a position to help out because I kept the fixture I made & the tooling. Unfortunately since being made redundant, I no longer work on CNC machines tho Im still in engineering, so maybe one day. My disc was an earlier one to which MikesXS now sells so may be different?
As far as the aluminium adaptor, never took any measurements, knew I should of at the time. Ill probably whip it off next weekend, might be useful information for people. would be very easy to make with a lathe & mill.
good luck with the projects everyone

 

[Pierrax]

I'm currently adapting FAZER fork + calipers on my XS. I bought Aprilia RS250 rotors (298mm as FAZER) but I'll need to offset both rotors and calipers.

See what a friend did :
http://xs650.over-blog.com/categorie-11102164.html
He adapted a fork and calipers from YAMAHA FZR GENESIS 1000 and brake rotors from Ducati (320mm).

 

[inxs]

- that was interesting, thanx...looks a sweet bike