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A long, long project.

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by toglhot, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Mailman

    Mailman Hardly a Guru Top Contributor

    What is the black finish on your pipes? Is it a high temp spray paint?
     
  2. Bewarethemoon

    Bewarethemoon XS650 Junkie XS650.com Supporter

    I’m bloody loving this build!

    The engine’s looking awesome, I love the black barrels & crank cases!

    Daniel.
     
  3. toglhot

    toglhot XS650 Enthusiast

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  4. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi Daniel,
    yeah, black is the new aluminum.
    When we were teenagers us old farts used to paint our cast iron heads and barrels with aluminum paint
    so that folks would think we rode aluminum-engined race-bikes.
     
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  5. Bewarethemoon

    Bewarethemoon XS650 Junkie XS650.com Supporter

    I like that Fredintoon!

    I’m going to have my head & barrels coated in a heat dissipating ceramic coating which is conveniently black!
     
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  6. bosco659

    bosco659 XS650 Addict XS650.com Supporter

    Looks fantastic! Great job on the pipes. I’m guessing they were mandrel bent.
     
  7. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    hi Daniel,
    my '84 XS650 Heritage special left the factory with it's engine blacked out but with the head & barrel fins edges polished back to bare aluminum,
    presumably to let folks know they weren't cast iron. Even today the head has only faded to a dark grey and the barrels are still black.
     
  8. Bewarethemoon

    Bewarethemoon XS650 Junkie XS650.com Supporter

    That’s exactly what I want to replicate, I love that look!
     
  9. toglhot

    toglhot XS650 Enthusiast

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    In lieu of a single point cam, which aren't available anymore, I tried my hand at making one on my lathe. I don't have a mill, so I used a vertical slide on the cross slide with a endmill in the chuck. Unfortunately, I cut the keyway in the wrong place. Tried it out today with the key removed and the cam just bolted in place. It worked well with static timing, lines on the rotor lining up spot on. Next job is to get the keyway right, might be easier to cut the keyway first and then machine the two ramps. Of course only timing with a light will show up any discrepancies, but statically the ramps are exactly 180 degrees apart with exactly the same lift. Yes I know you can buy electronic ignitions, but where's the fun in that, anyone can do that! The good news is, I've bought a mill, should be here in the next week or so, that'll make things a lot easier.
     

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  10. fredintoon

    fredintoon Fred Hill, S'toon. Top Contributor

    Hi toglhot,
    simpler yet to cut another keyway?
     
  11. toglhot

    toglhot XS650 Enthusiast

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    More work on the ignition system today. Couldn't find any 3mm eye terminals anywhere, so modified some male blade terminals. Grommet in the points housing was spit, so I used some rubber I had lying around and fashioned a new one, then fashioned a points backing plate and mounted points and condenser. I'm thinking of exiting the points to coil wire at the top of the housing a little later on to make it a little neater. I replaced the 4mm phillips head screws securing the points and condenser with allen heads and shortened some 6mm socket, button heads for fixing the backing plate in place. The cutouts on the plate are a little longer than stock which gives me a little more leeway for timing. Still have to make another cam, but I'll wait until my new mil arrives before tackling that. Once it arrives I'll have to ignore the bike for a while while I make a stand for it.
     

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  12. Rasputin

    Rasputin XS650 Addict XS650.com Supporter Top Contributor

    Astounds me why Yamaha didn’t do that initially. Even my 1967 CD175 has that system. Could you utilise a cam from on of those engines?
    Happy new Milling machine.
     
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  13. toglhot

    toglhot XS650 Enthusiast

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    A lot of things on the XS650 astound me, I think it was an overnight design, put together quickly to capitalise on the success of the Brit 650 twins.
     
  14. toglhot

    toglhot XS650 Enthusiast

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    When I converted to a permanent magnet alternator on the bike, rather than buy a kit, I pieced it together using a Virago rotor, a Banshee, stator and a mount I spun up on my lathe. This left no way to time it, so today I shaped a simple crescent shaped plate, drilled and tapped a couple of holes in the left side engine cover and mounted the plate on the inside to get it close to the rotor. To get the timing right, I installed the original rotor and stator, brought the rotor around around to line up with the F mark on the stator, then carefully disassembled the old alternator, assembled the new PMA rotor and scribed a line on the rotor to line up with the middle of the cutout on the bottom of the cover. Once done I assembled the timing plate in the side cover and engraved a line on the plate to line up with the rotor line. Hopefully it's right and the motor, without plugs, didn't rotate any. If so, it's a simple matter of engraving another line on the plate.
     

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