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"Standing inside Erie Base and Auto Pound located at 700 Columbia St. on June 21, Adams surveyed a sea of confiscated motorcycles and praised the NYPD for the large seizure of these vehicles since the beginning of the year. The mayor also declared a war on these dirt bikes over the summer, stating that their presence will not be tolerated."

Looking at the picture it appears that all types of motorcycles were well represented....
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I ride a motorcycle around nyc sometimes. I rode my xs around back when it was stock and have a red light camera photo to prove it.
They should crush the cars. They're the ones causing traffic. Motorcycles and dirt bikes filtering through aren't the problem.
Even worse are the high-powered electric bikes. They go 35 mph although they're not supposed to, have no lights, make no sound, and haven't upgraded brakes.
I hate those things the way new york drivers seem to hate dirt bikes: i'm actually a little jealous.
 

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"Standing inside Erie Base and Auto Pound located at 700 Columbia St. on June 21, Adams surveyed a sea of confiscated motorcycles and praised the NYPD for the large seizure of these vehicles since the beginning of the year. The mayor also declared a war on these dirt bikes over the summer, stating that their presence will not be tolerated."

Looking at the picture it appears that all types of motorcycles were well represented....View attachment 217042


What the Op failed to mention is these are "illegal" motorcycles. It's illegal to ride an ATV or dirt bike on the streets of NYC. The penalty is confiscation.

Love the law... hate the law... could give two shit either way.... it's still the law. We don't get to to ignore a law because we don't like it or disagree with it.
When we're no longer a nation of laws.... well....


NEW YORK -- Last year, New York City imposed tougher fines and penalties for people who illegally ride ATVs and dirt bikes on the street, but CBS2's Cory James spoke with residents who believe that has done little to stop the dangerous activity.
Some Upper East Side neighbors say it's happening at all hours of the day, multiple times a week.
"It's literally hundreds coming down the block," Len Genovese said. "It's a real problem."
Genovese lives near 74th Street and First Avenue. He recorded video of the ongoing activity that he says is jeopardizing public safety.
"I've had some close calls. You can't cross the street when it's happening. If you do, you're putting yourself in danger," he said.
Footage shows riders popping wheelies in Chelsea as they spread across all lanes of traffic for an Easter Sunday cruise.
"It's gotten really bad," said Ryan Myers, another Upper East Side resident.
He says the illegal riding is non-stop near his building, which is not too far from Mayor Eric Adams.
"I'm shocked that with him being so close that nothing has been done," Myers said.


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Here's a link to the original article the OP neglected to provide. Gives you a little better context.
 
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What I'm sayin is that swarms of yuppies are buying and operating dangerous vehicles in high powered electric bicycles. Yuppies aren't complaining because they're "green," except for the tons of lithium waste that will be incorrectly discarded. And because they're not noisy, which is actually why they're dangerous.

Dirt bikes are loud, smoky, and associated with stupid low-class people who are dirty because they're actually brilliant mechanics and riders whose ability to sustain vintage mechanics does more for the environment than a new e-bike. Although from what I've read, 2-strokes are pretty bad polluters (it's a guilty pleasure for me now).

Most of these e-bikes are actually illegal because they're supposed to max out at 15 mph or something but they do 25 or 35 easy. People operate them on the streets with no license or traffic knowledge. Drunk tourists love them, and are often hospitalized

But nobody is crushing them.

You may think i'm overreacting to the e-bike plague. I've lived in nyc and spend a couple weeks there a year. I didn't see this e-bike phenomenon until last year. Don't recall dirt bikes being a problem. Anybody else feeling this e-bike nonsense in nyc or elsewhere?
 

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Well I can clearly see in the pic which is not photoshopped that there are a huge number of STREET bikes being crushed. That is what I stated.

"Looking at the picture it appears that all types of motorcycles were well represented...."

Everybody already knows that dirt bikes are illegal on the streets. DUH.
I didn't feel a need to explain it in full.
Most on here are capable of such a simple understanding. I also posted the title which makes googling even easier. Again I didn't feel that the members needed to be spoon fed.
I am pretty certain that those that have interest can find the information.

Obviously you missed the entire point.
The photo clearly shows a great number of street bikes (nearly half looking at the taillights) were crushed as well as the "illegal" dirt bikes.

When did a dirt bike become illegal???
Oh that's right... they are not illegal.
The OPERATION of dirt bikes on streets and sidewalks is illegal. Perhaps actually punishing the criminals breaking the law would reduce crime. Of course the city of New York doesn't believe in that concept.

Why crush the motorcycles, illegal or not?
They could be auctioned to law abiding citizens.
Even auctioned out of the city or state.
Those monies could be used to aid other needs within the city such as food banks etc.

It's ridiculous and absurd.
The bike commited the crime.
The motorcycles are terrorist.
It's obvious they had to be destroyed.

Another example of brilliant minds being brilliant.
 

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I didn't feel a need to explain it in full.
You neglected one very simple and important word.... "illegal." That completely changes the context of what's happening here.

Again I didn't feel that the members needed to be spoon fed.
Providing link isn't "spoon feeding." It's an effective means of passing along information.

Obviously you missed the entire point.
No, I got your point.... outrage at bikes being destroyed. If a street bike's pullin' wheelies on the sidewalk, it (the owner) broke the law... and was confiscated.

Let me say here that I don't like the idea of bikes being crushed either... and I'm not saying I'm always law abiding, but if I break a law intentionally, I best be ready to accept the consequences.

If not, I'm just an idiot that thinks he's above the law.
I'm not, you're not... these people who lost their bikes aren't. Sorry, I have no outrage or sympathy for 'em.

Don't like the law, work to change it. There's procedures in place for that.
Ignoring it isn't one of them.

The OPERATION of dirt bikes on streets and sidewalks is illegal. Perhaps actually punishing the criminals breaking the law would reduce crime. Of course the city of New York doesn't believe in that concept.
I believe losing their bike qualifies as "punishment." Riding illegally = breaking the law. Losing your bike = punishment. Less illegally ridden bikes = less crime.

It's ridiculous and absurd.
The bike commited the crime.
The motorcycles are terrorist.
It's obvious they had to be destroyed.
That's just ridiculous bullshit. :rolleyes:

Why crush the motorcycles, illegal or not?
They could be auctioned to law abiding citizens.
Even auctioned out of the city or state.
Those monies could be used to aid other needs within the city such as food banks etc.
Good question. Instead of trying to drum up outrage, you could instead spend your time trying to make that happen?
 
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I also think it should be managed handled differently. If possible
If the motorcycle is confiscated ..which can happen Especially if some crime is involved.

I have over the years met people honest and hard working still not having money enough for the motorcycling hobby.
In fact most when I was a teenager
It is hard for them watching these kind of pictures
I remember there was military surplus storage's being cleared .
There were tents sleeping bags field stoves outdoors clothing winter gear top quality Payed for by the taxpayer ,
Scouting said this is items we can use for our youth. operation .Just give us a time we can come collect it with our own trucks
BUT No ..threw it away and maybe set fire to it.

Here there are motor clubs that would be natural to ask .. Again for youth activities start the wrenching
But no bulldozing it using fuel for destroying things
OK I understand that it can take efforts to organize it and space man hours.
But it was not the case with the army surplus emptying.

It can say that much that many I knew when I was a teenager .given the opportunity get a free bike or cheap bike
There would have been a long queue
And I dont think it has changed ...still is a lot of young people cannot afford it
Perhaps there is an overall rationality in this but first impression I dont like it

To joke about it ---" We are not talking recycling here "
 

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Ok Jim
I'm not going to argue this all day.

"You neglected one very simple word.... "illegal.""

Why would I include that ridiculous descriptor?
The motorcycles are NOT illegal.
The operation of the motorcycles may have been.
What does the punishment of individuals committing a crime on a motorcycle has to do with the absurd decision to crush the motorcycle? Stupidity.

"That's just ridiculous bullshit."

Total agreement. Yet from a different article than you offered up we have this from Fabien Levy- Press Secretary-Office of the Mayor NYC....

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Seems like they are saying they are crushing the MOTORCYCLES because they are terrorizing the city. Terrorists motorcycles.
No mention of the actual perpetrators of the acts of "Terror" Give the criminal a pass and blame the instrument the criminal used.
That seems to have become the standard for certain pockets in our society.

As for the law.
The law doesn't say anything about crushing the bikes. Confiscation is not the same as destruction. The destruction of these machines did not serve as a deterrent.
I also noticed that you failed to address the 50% or more (eyeball guesstimate from photo) STREET machines that were crushed as well. Perhaps they were illegal as well.
Brake light out? Crusher time. You are driving it illegal. Who knows with these morons.

"Good question. Instead of trying to drum up outrage, you could instead spend your time trying to make that happen?"

???
Why should it even have to be mentioned by me? How many officials did this stupidity pass through getting all the boxes checked?
Yet nobody could conjure up a better solution? Clearly the answer is no. At least nobody with enough clout to change this outcome. All that was required apparently was the stamp of approval from Dumb, Dumber and Dumberer.
Nothing wrong with being ooutraged by the outrageous. I am not outraged however.
Just saddened by the loss of so many bikes for photo opportunity.

It is beyond me that anyone here can defend this kind of action but I wake up everyday to be amazed. Life never disappoints
 

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Wow... hyperbole much?
I'm not gonna respond to a bunch of hyperbolic bullshit.

Is it sad these bikes were crushed? I certainly think so.

Could they have come up with a better solution? I'd hope so.

Did the owners of these bikes make a menace of themselves to the point that the majority of the citizenry of NYC wanted them off the street? Yes and yes.

Will this action deter future cases of illegal street use? The jury's out but I'ma go out on a limb and say yes.... the photo op and the coverage will do at least as much as the destruction itself. And at the least, it will have the same affect as burning bales of weed as a deterrent.... it get's it off the street...permanently.

The only reason I commented here was to point out the fact that these bikes were confiscated and destroyed because the owners were breaking the law and pissing off the citizenry. Laws are laws, we disregard them at our peril.

Untracking. I'm done.
 

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It is beyond me that anyone here can defend this kind of action but I wake up everyday to be amazed. Life never disappoints
I may not condone it but I can defend it. It's confiscated property. The police can dispose of it as they see fit. It was a photo-op, that is sad. I would bet the street bikes that were crushed had been used in a crime or abandoned. Would it make more sense to auction them off, yes. To me the dog and pony show was political, the Mayor was showing he was being tough on the the problem.
Where I live every few years the area police departments get together and dispose of several hundred guns and knives. They take them to the local steel mill and have them melted down in a furnace. I'm sure most are in decent shape some probably valuable. I never hear any gun enthusiasts complain about it. There is always a pic on the front page of all the local newspapers. Photo-op?
Point is both are confiscated goods. Could both be sold back to the general public, yes. I just have to wonder what the public reaction would be to the police selling guns.
 

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Was going through a small town in Michigan using back streets as I tend to do and was surprised to see a "gang" (ten kids maybe) of scooters and dirt bikes running the streets.
Remember when the western sheriff used to confiscate the horses from drunken cowboys and run em over with a train? Yeah, me either.
Can't touch the little angels, so smoosh their toys, great system.
 

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Can't touch the little angels, so smoosh their toys, great system.
And how would you propose we deal with the little angels for a "traffic violation?" Lock 'em up?

Loud muffler Harley guys too? Loud XS's?
No proof of insurance?

Exactly how should we "touch" the little angels.... and by extension everyone else who violates a traffic regulation?

Careful what you wish for....


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Um crushing the bikes that "the little angels" prolly stole or bought from a fence? So some schmuck loses any chance of recovering his property, and yes used bikes/parts = people learning, using skills staying off the streets. Just look at the denizens here...........
It's just a "pretend we are doing something" photo op and it was just bikes from the impound lot not connected to any specific action.
BS politics.
Now if they ran an electric bus over a row of impounded E-bikes....
That'd bring out howls
depends on who's ox is getting gored.
And yaas, Caught you looking Jim! :laugh:
'sides it seems you are more interested in shooting the messenger, for reasons unrelated to the post. :sneaky:

Long as I'm here with an audience,
y'know I was at the Canada rally and talked to MANY guys about getting on the forum, posting up their ride, pics, build details, etc.
Seriously, worked on at least 6, several who HAVE shown up here and posted now. Several were looking at buying XS650's one just did and sent me a PM about it.
And while I'm away there's a group here doing a bang up job of sending any new to forum visiters running away screaming.
Kinda funny but if I said I'm g,g,g,Gary, they imediately knew who that was. :laughing:
We have a LOT of lurkers. At least on duck duck go, the forum gets high ranking in the results if XS650 is a search term.
 
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And how would you propose we deal with the little angels for a "traffic violation?" Lock 'em up?
I had a mini-bike when I was young. I was allowed to ride it around the yard all I wanted. Several friends got mini-bikes. There was some land, a couple hundred acres at the east end of the village that we got permission to ride on. Each of us had to work out a route to get there that involved no more than crossing a road. IE through neighbors back yards. Well being young and on a powered "bike" sometimes the road looked pretty inviting. The Sheriff and State Police would patrol from time to time. If they caught you on the road they would "escort" you home and explain to your parents that they would not arrest you but they could arrest the parents. Once a summer someone would get busted. That would end our road riding.
Granted it was a different time. But our parents kept most of us inline.
 

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I do hope i didn't kick the dirt of off a rabbit hole.
 

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I had a mini-bike when I was young. I was allowed to ride it around the yard all I wanted. Several friends got mini-bikes. There was some land, a couple hundred acres at the east end of the village that we got permission to ride on. Each of us had to work out a route to get there that involved no more than crossing a road. IE through neighbors back yards. Well being young and on a powered "bike" sometimes the road looked pretty inviting. The Sheriff and State Police would patrol from time to time. If they caught you on the road they would "escort" you home and explain to your parents that they would not arrest you but they could arrest the parents. Once a summer someone would get busted. That would end our road riding.
Granted it was a different time. But our parents kept most of us inline.
Um I was one of them also.
Coasted down a hill on village streets to get to a gas station, then got busted riding back up the hill (305 scrambler) Cop sat and watched me push it back up the hill "for a while" then left before I had a stroke................
Ha ha.
 
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