xxxWALLYxxx
XS650 Member
if i convert my xs650 to pma i use the stator bracket and flywheel from a banshee but can i also use the stator from the banshee?
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How-To: Permanent Magnet Alternator Swap (Also known as the Banshee Swap)
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XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
No, you have to use any of the list... I recomend you this one
Ebay Item #: 250750711057
XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
If anyone are looking for a flywheel here is two listed in ebay
Item #: 190529026569
Item #: 300553243432
Item #: 190529026569
Item #: 300553243432
sbtm
XS650 Enthusiast
The original ebay link for the small battery has expired. Is this the same item?
http://cgi.ebay.com/12Volt-0-8amp-hour-12V-0-8ah-Sealed-Lead-SLA-Battery-/290561884940?pt=PCA_UPS&hash=item43a6d6830c#ht_1308wt_905
And can the elec start still be used with this battery?
http://cgi.ebay.com/12Volt-0-8amp-hour-12V-0-8ah-Sealed-Lead-SLA-Battery-/290561884940?pt=PCA_UPS&hash=item43a6d6830c#ht_1308wt_905
And can the elec start still be used with this battery?
XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
No... If you want to use the elec start you will need a real, or big battery, the small battery or the capasitor is called Batteryless, so, it is just to start the bike with the kick pedal...
Cafe-Dave
XS650B
I've got a CN250 (Honda Helix) stator on the way. Price was very right to at least see if it will work.
A current eBay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stat...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415968f1c1
Seems to have the five bolt pattern, three wire. I'm willing to relist it, if it's not going to work. Tons of Honda copies get pumped out by the Chinese crappy atv's and motorcycles.
Here's to hoping.
A current eBay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stat...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415968f1c1
Seems to have the five bolt pattern, three wire. I'm willing to relist it, if it's not going to work. Tons of Honda copies get pumped out by the Chinese crappy atv's and motorcycles.
Here's to hoping.
xxxWALLYxxx
XS650 Member
hey dave dont think it will fitt od is 172 mm
XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
Good deal, but, are your sure that this stator had the correct measurements?
103mm X 42mm X 20mm
Cafe-Dave
XS650B
We'll see if it's 20mm or 30mm. For $12 with shipping, I'll take a chance. I don't let things I don't know...keep me from doing the things I want to do. I can just buy a new one for ~$130 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOND...089809QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories), but I like to do research so I don't mind.
If it won't work, I'll relist it on eBay. I should know in a week.
XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
I buy a wrong one, I spend 80$ plus shipping...
This one will fit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yama...Accessories&hash=item3a61e83511#ht_4425wt_948
This one will fit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yama...Accessories&hash=item3a61e83511#ht_4425wt_948
BIOBUG1
biobug1
what about the old wiring and the rectifier?
shotgunjoe
XS650 Hunter
Eliminated along with the regulator, you need a reg/rec from a bike that came with a PMA. They functionally VERY different. only 3 wires from the stator are used, and the wiring from the reg/rec go to the the battery/frame.
ann0yed
XS650 Addict
I think I'll replace my capacitor with the tiny battery everyone seems to be using, I want bright turn signals and a strong horn at idle. Is there anything to do other than just swapping them out?
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mrriggs
XS650 Junkie
The thickest I've seen is 20mm. The thickness is measured at the core, not the windings.
I think you need the thinner 16mm stator if you are using one of Punkskalar's adapter rings. In my first PMA setup I was using a 20mm stator and stock Banshee stator plate and there was no room behind the plate for an adapter.
Punkskalar
Hugh's HandBuilt
I've been running the 20MM stators on my kits without issues... BTW, I got tricks to get the wider stators to work too 
Cafe-Dave
XS650B
I've been running the 20MM stators on my kits without issues... BTW, I got tricks to get the wider stators to work too
Something like milling down the stator mounting face, on the timing plate? I doubt removing those three tits of material will totally bone an installation.
Looks like a guy can remove 4-5mm from the timing plate mount as well.
mrriggs
XS650 Junkie
The only trick is to keep it perfectly true to the stator mounting face so the stator remains concentric to the rotor.
Cafe-Dave
XS650B
The CN250 stator is 0.670" / 17.01mm when measured from mounting face to the surface the screw tightens against. The stator is 18 pole, delta wound (3 wires exit really close to each other, I could be incorrect about the wye vs. Delta)
I'll be modeling the entire setup in Solidworks, to do As-built documentation. Simply because it's something I'm great at, and it could help anyone else who may have questions. Plus I just want to play with the latest version of Solidworks and the various rendering tools.
I'll buy a xs650 rotor puller, when I find a banshee flywheel. I'm at $44.99 (with shipping) right now for stator and timing plate . I'm shooting for $150 for an as-installed project price. I will use Hugh's adapter.
Cafe-Dave
XS650B
XS650_Bobber
Working in my project
If you want brightest lights and better horn you will install a real motorbike battery...
