Without getting too political, Western society is more concerned with some aggrieved segment of society getting their feelings hurt from someone else's words than they are with actions that actually cause physical and financial harm.
Bingo! And raise the minimum driving age. While were at it, does anyone really think that a 16 year old should be riding a 100+ H.P. crotch rocket?
Minimum driving age is 18 in Germany.
Same in the UK; good R!'s from £3,500. All that tech, power and handling for £3,500!
Couldn't agree with you more. The UK is nearly a lawless society. We have the same non-licence, non-insurance issues here; normally driving stolen cars and pi$$ed or drugged up behind the wheel. They get sent to court and given a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again. They are normally generational 'benefit' types who's only goal is to steal from us tax / insurance payers and get more drugs / booze or stolen cars. THERE IS NO 'DISINSENTIVE' HERE. We have multiple 'fly on the wall' TV shows that back up my statements.
You are correct, and so many of them are now here through legal (and illegal) immigration channels. It's absurd they just flaunt our laws as they know our prisons are full and the law courts are overwhelmed with cases like this. Often they just carry on like it doesn't matter.
"Operating without it would have to come with meaningful consequences".
I think most people don't mind taxes that serve a purpose. Build the cost into the cost of a license. Allow people to pay for their drivers ed/license in installments. Much of this discussion has to do with behavior. There is no excuse for it. You can't blame poverty, you can't blame the lack of "programs",I dump most of it in the lap of parents.A lot to say here that I'll hold my tongue on....
In Germany, fines such as speeding are based on net worth along with the normal factors (speed etc.). For me, 20kph over would be 500DM (for example).
A rich dude on a Beemer might pay 5000DM for the same offense.
I think that's a fair system. If the idea is to deter, everyone needs to feel the pain equally.
Drivers Ed... or should I say lack thereof. When I was a kid, drivers ed was pretty much taught in every high school in the country.... and mandatory in most.
But it cost's money to fund a program like that. Tax money.
So we, as a society decided we hate taxes. Get rid of 'em.... all hail Grover Norquist.
...and here we are... idiots on the road that barely passed their driving test and haven't a clue about the proper way to "share the road."
But damned if our taxes didn't go down, or at least not go to stupid shit... you know, like learin' the "proper" way to drive.
You get what you pay for.
Yeah... like speaking engagements and volleyball courts for an ex QB... while the capital city's water system falls apart. Yeah, fraud and abuse happens anywhere money's involved. Pools of tax money ain't immune from greed and crooks.
I won't take your bet.I'd lay money on it.
In Jacksonville, Fl, we've got potholes big enough to swallow a Hummer, but the city continues to give $$$ and property away to Jaguars owner Shad Khan. He wanted a piece of an expressway removed for a project, how fast do you need it gone sir? And that's just the crap that makes headlines. It goes back to accountability.Yeah... like speaking engagements and volleyball courts for an ex QB... while the capital city's water system falls apart. Yeah, fraud and abuse happens anywhere money's involved. Pools of tax money ain't immune from greed and crooks.
Think ol' Brett's gonna be treated any different from any other scofflaw? I'm mean... we're sittin' here bashing kids an' blamin' parents... think the rich guy will fare better?
I'd lay money on it.
And that's with all of the modern safety equipment that is built into cars. Those #'s should be going down.I won't take your bet.
Unfortunately, we seem to be willing to accept our annual traffic death toll.
More than 46,000 people die in car crashes each year, according to Annual United States Road Crash Statistics (ASIRT). The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants.Oct 10, 2022
All the safety equipment in the world can't fix stupid. Unless it got squashed, I understand smart billboards are coming that broadcast onto the screen in your car!
Follow the money.All the safety equipment in the world can't fix stupid. Unless it got squashed, I understand smart billboards are coming that broadcast onto the screen in your car!
That seems to be something our elected leaders should be protecting us from. Cynical me says they benefit from allowing it.
https://jalopnik.com/ford-patented-in-car-ads-because-we-live-in-hell-now-1846902212
Yep!
I know how you feel. Rabbit hole? Not near the rabbit hole it would be if I wasn't censoring myself, but that's what I'm supposed to do, follow the rules. Back to the root of this, there is no excuse for driving without license or insurance, yet there is very little in the way of consequences and I feel bad for the guy with the rear ended R1. He'll be lucky to get $1500 for it. He's lucky to be alive.
What is the minimum age for an AMA competition license?
