Well, if the 400 rpm deviation was seen at the 7500 rpm redline, that is just above 5%. Which definitely could be the deviation/ inaccuracy of the 40 years old mechanical tacho. I doubt Yamaha would have them read less than actual rpm......Mechanical speedos are known to be notoriously "optimistic", so it is very likely that mechanical tachos are the same.
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Installing a Vape all in one charging and ignition system.
- Thread starter gggGary
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Bjorn
XS650 Addict
Hey guys, maybe I missed it somewhere but does this system have a rev limiter?
Yes if if you set the 1,2 and 3 dip switches to on and 4 off. this is how it works..- Starts at 5°, advances to 40° at 3000. Keeps that till 8000 and than throttles the engine back so that you can not surpass 8000 revs. - I have a dyno picture somewhere i will try and find it.
Bjorn
XS650 Addict
They call it throttle back so you can not surpass 8000 revs., I always used the top one with the switches off.
I_ride_forth
XS650 Member
Sorry for the super basic question but I have a 1975 XS650 with electric start has anyone had any issues running the Vape system with an electric starter? I asked Vape if it was compatible and they said no but reading through the thread it sounds like some of you are running the vape system and keeping your electric starter.
The VAPE has proven to be an excellent and reliable system for me. It has no bearing on the XS electric start system and actually provides better charging vs the stock system: so you'll be fine.
What battery and rec/reg are you using?
It comes with its own proprietary reg/rec. I'm using an AntiGravity 1201 LiFePo4, but it'll work with any battery (14Ah, 220CCA for E-start)
I_ride_forth
XS650 Member
Thanks JPdevol that's super helpful wasn't looking forward to having to send it back to the Czech Republic. I'm planning to use the same battery you're using too so good to know you've not had any issues. Thanks to all those who posted before on the thread too, there's a load of great information here.
Just to be clear; you can use any battery with the capacity specs above that fits your battery box. If you go LiFePo4, just make sure the max charge doesn't exceed 14.5VDC. IME there is no need for a special "Lithium" regulator (typically 14 - 14.2V max) with the current crop of Shorai or AntiGravity brands
Thanks JP. The reason I ask was there is a VAPE dealer (not Hoos) that is selling a recalibrated reg/rec for the VAPE system that is used with a Lithium battery. I use a Shorai LFX14A2-BS12. I don`t know what the Max charge rate is for a VAPE but I told Gary Hoos what I was using for a battery and he thought it would be OK. For no more than I ride it probably will.
Add noco to the self regulating lithium battery list
Put this NLP14 12V 500A Lithium Powersport Battery $129.95
in the FJ1200 worked fine there.
https://no.co/nlp14
Put this NLP14 12V 500A Lithium Powersport Battery $129.95
in the FJ1200 worked fine there.
https://no.co/nlp14
VAPE Regulator specs - XS Kits come with 9522 Regulator (for us geeks)
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XS974
XS650 Member
Hello Bjorn,
My electrical system is the same as yours. : Vape ignition and daytona Velona tachometer.
Is your solution still working ok?
To be sure I understood : You use ingnition coils that have a 5Kohms resistor included, with a BP7ES or BP8ES (without resistor)
Thank you for your help...
Luc.
My electrical system is the same as yours. : Vape ignition and daytona Velona tachometer.
Is your solution still working ok?
To be sure I understood : You use ingnition coils that have a 5Kohms resistor included, with a BP7ES or BP8ES (without resistor)
Thank you for your help...
Luc.
Superdriver
XS650 Addict
I have a 1978 XS 650 would this system work on it. Thanks. Bill
Yes sir!
This will replace ignition and charging on any year XS650.
Superdriver
XS650 Addict
Thank you very much
Bjorn
XS650 Addict
Hi! Im looking to add back a E-start to my bike and am running the Vape system. Im exploring the possibilities to add a strong enough Battery while keeping the weight low.
I appreciate your comment about running the anti-gravity batt with a vape system. If I understand correctly, you have a positive experience with the standard vape reg/rec ?
I have no experience so far with Vape/ AntiGravity on an XS.
But I do have an RD350 with Vape and a small Super-B LiPoFe battery. This setup has worked great for a number of years.
I have also used a Super-B on the XS with the stock charging system, as well as on a Ducati Monster 600 with stock charging system. Also with no problems.
I believe Super-B is made in The Netherlands, so I would recommend you look into them as an alternative.
