I had a customer beat me out of a substantial amount of money and of course my first instinct as a redneck was...thankfully the better angels of my faith won out. Love your collection. Wish I had the skill both as a gunsmith and a shooter that you have.
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Asylum cycles - any ideas ?
- Thread starter Paleomechanic
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Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
It's time to ratchet up the pressure on Jeremi aka Jay dba Asylum Cycles. I'm starting a Facebook blitz as SCAM ALERT for asylum cycles his address is public knowledge, his work phone number is public knowledge. His business practices are about to become public knowledge. It's too bad because our community needs craftsmen and technical people but just not like Jeremi.
This modern age makes it pretty easy to "summon the mob." Kinda like the linching mobs of days past when someone would get drug outta jail by the mob and strung up by his neck... all without his day in court.
Jay may or may not have his reasons for not delivering... I don't know.... and I don't have a dog in this fight. It's just this modern day mob thing makes me uneasy... very uneasy.
I'm with Jim on this.
Lets start with proof of the purchase. Must be one of several things. Communication with a receipt of purchase. That could start from the confirmation of the order and an invoice from Asylum Cycles. A receipt he sent you, a paypal confirmation of payment, (not as a friends and family payment), or some other form of confirmation like a bank transfer, (or internet banking), with his details on it.
If there are no records or conversations, about not receiving the goods, (been deleted, that's why i asked for a link), or any receipt for proof of payment then any action taken is not above board.
I'm not saying Asylum Cycles has not done wrong, as has been claimed. What i am saying is, you need to be able to back up any claim with proof and should be posted when making any claim when/before you "ratchet up the pressure" If not then any internet action taken, especially if it creates a frenzy, (lot of crazies who will make statements because they don't like him and may have never done any business with them), leading to the collapse of his business and he can prove it, then maybe, he would have legal grounds to take action against the instigator.
Make sure off your footing.
Any statements on the Internet can be used legally. JP's statement, in post no #, is an adhomin attack because he does not say or mention he has head any dealings, leading to problems with the vendor, just calling him a thief on someone else's word without any proof posted is a good example of what will most likely happen by 100 to 1000% posting on facebook.
Paleomechanic
XS650 Addict
As one who has been put out by all of this both in time and funds lost, I will not encourage or condone this action. I have lots of reasons why.
I can certainly prove everything as I have all the written correspondence, however, speaking for myself, it’s not worth the trouble this may cause, to everyone involved.
I’ve written earlier on this threat to my personal thoughts on this.
To add, I’m also an investigator with Canada’s National Police Force , the RCMP. This is a bit of an over share on social media, however , I say this only to reference to the potential legalities of “social media mobbing “ I’m not fully sure of the US or State Laws, but I’m sure they are pretty close to ours
Proof matters gentleman. If you decide this is the path you choose, choose carefully
All the best guys!
I can certainly prove everything as I have all the written correspondence, however, speaking for myself, it’s not worth the trouble this may cause, to everyone involved.
I’ve written earlier on this threat to my personal thoughts on this.
To add, I’m also an investigator with Canada’s National Police Force , the RCMP. This is a bit of an over share on social media, however , I say this only to reference to the potential legalities of “social media mobbing “ I’m not fully sure of the US or State Laws, but I’m sure they are pretty close to ours
Proof matters gentleman. If you decide this is the path you choose, choose carefully
All the best guys!
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Perhaps the better business bureau might help.
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Yelp
BBB
GROUP ADMIN, Facebook.
There are ways of getting results without doxxing someone. I've been waiting to see if JM was going catch up and do right by his paid customers but still nothing. I ordered a harness on January 5th 2023. Almost 6 months ago. I don't care what delays he may have had this time frame is excessive by any standard. That coupled with all the dozens of excuses. He finally texted me back claiming he was sick this time. Unbelievable.
BBB
GROUP ADMIN, Facebook.
There are ways of getting results without doxxing someone. I've been waiting to see if JM was going catch up and do right by his paid customers but still nothing. I ordered a harness on January 5th 2023. Almost 6 months ago. I don't care what delays he may have had this time frame is excessive by any standard. That coupled with all the dozens of excuses. He finally texted me back claiming he was sick this time. Unbelievable.
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
I just went on his website and it announces he is moving his shop to a larger facility June 1st 2023. I doubt I'll ever see my harness.
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Local chamber of commerce is next
If you paid by PayPal file a claim with them. If the PayPal account is attached to a credit card for payment file a claim with the credit card company.
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
That's with tax and shipping . I was told 2-4 weeks
My reasoning for posting the uncharacteristically harsh comment regarding @JayTheWrench was twofold:
- He came on here, right before the holidays, and promoted custom harnesses (opinion: of dubious utility) and name dropped Daddy G. in an obvious attempt to prompt some orders and raise some quick cash. Then didn't deliver and dropped out-of-sight. FACT
- Been my experience that those that adopt monikers such as his (Vinny the Broom, etc) are a prideful - yet unscrupulous - bunch from a specific geographic area and they typically respond to being "called-out" bluntly (it got a response after much silence...). AD HOMINEM
He's been appropriately shamed here, yet it didn't yield any resolution (or refunds).
PS - My profile is my real name with my real zip code; any summons mailed Certified and addressed "General Delivery" will be sufficient and will be answered forthwith - GFL...
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Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Exactly, bring it on. I've got receipts
Paleomechanic
XS650 Addict
To clarify , I am actually working on something, just pulling different levers …
On that , I have opened an investigation with VISA , as that’s how I paid . VISA seems to be quite interested in the individual…but this is being conducted “offline”
On that , I have opened an investigation with VISA , as that’s how I paid . VISA seems to be quite interested in the individual…but this is being conducted “offline”
Paleomechanic
XS650 Addict
What’s unfortunate is I’m seeing more than a couple of folks that have been “potentially defrauded “ in this situation (note the language . Potentially.)
If it’s determined that this is a trend, it could become a criminal proceeding, so I’d ask that any traffic posted be factual and to the point.
If it’s determined that this is a trend, it could become a criminal proceeding, so I’d ask that any traffic posted be factual and to the point.
I suspect PayPal had shit-canned his ass for perhaps previous chicanery. If VISA does likewise (they can), it's a serious impediment to conducting any business.
Again, I don't really have a "dog in this fight", such things (dishonesty) just particularly "push my buttons".......
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Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
Just got a text from Mr Miller,
He's just going to refund my money. He doesn't want to work with me anymore. We shall see in 5 business days for some reason. Keep y'all posted.
He's just going to refund my money. He doesn't want to work with me anymore. We shall see in 5 business days for some reason. Keep y'all posted.
Paleomechanic
XS650 Addict
Congratulations
……He told me the same thing mid April , but then there was a problem with his “ shop monkey” payment system
I hope this goes better for you than it did me
Reggie B
XS650 Enthusiast
I doubt it will go better I just got a text from him stating he's sending a check in the mail, bahahahaha. It was a scam from the beginning now that I see the whole thing in retrospect. Started with his payment method being down. Then a flood or some other natural disaster. Then he received bad parts, all of the components were bad all at the same time, wow what are the odds. Then his inability to fill international orders because of freight increased costs. And it went on and on and on. Buyer beware. He now claims his payment method isn't working or some B's so he's gonna send a check? Now my problem is I'm moving from NY to Illinois and I can almost guarantee he intensionally mails to the wrong address after he acknowledged my new address. What a mess. This is total fraud.
