MadHatch
XS650 Enthusiast
Hey all,
I'm so awfully close to riding, and thought today would be the day after a long couple nights of wiring nonsense straightened out. But I've had a strange thing happen, that I need help sorting out.
Bike: 1977 XS650D
I had the bike idling nice today, was letting it warm up to go on the first good ride in while, go to put it in first, and stalled immediately. Thought maybe my clutch wasn't engaging after a few tries, so I pulled off the clutch adjuster plate on the left side of the engine, and adjusted a little tighter, but still while holding the clutch in, in first gear, the gears would catch. So I pulled the bike reluctantly back into the garage, drained the oil, pulled the right side cover off, to examine the clutch plates and see if they were just gummy from the bike sitting for several months. I went through all the plates, they're not in perfect shape, but didn't seem too worn down and I didn't see any red flags. So following the tech section, I reinstalled the full clutch via the videos from the tech section. And sure enough, even with the clutch plates engaging when I pull the clutch, my gears are still acting as if the clutch is not engaging or being pulled... I've recording a video showing the exact action, to show you guys how the plates are moving, and how when I rotate the back tire (in first gear) with the clutch pulled, it hits a wall, and won't go any further, or "stalls out" without the engine on.
The last time I opened the right engine cover was several months ago, I did so to tighten the clip on the starter motor, cause it was making a ton of starter noise. After I tightened the clip following some of the threads, the noise went away . Thanks to 5twins
I put the starter back in, and while doing so, the kickstart popped out on me, so I put that back in as well, to what seemed correct, followed my manual, a mix of threads, and video to make sure both the kick + starter went in correct.
I guess several months ago when I did this, I never actually put it in first gear.... I must have just idled, and been happy that the kick + starter both worked seemingly as they should. (Cold Winters in NYC, had me not ride it around the block at the time.)
So now I'm pretty confused. Could this be from installing the starter gear incorrectly that it would "catch" in first gear no matter if you have the clutch pulled or not? Could it be the kick start with the same theory? I examined everything, photos attached, and I'm not finding anything off or weird.... Let me know if anything sticks out to you guys.
I've never had any clutch issues in the past, so I'm assuming it's me installing the starter or kickstart incorrectly without realizing... maybe these symptoms may be something obvious for someone whos done this before, or the videos/pictures show something obvious to someone else who's more experienced with rebuilding the right side might point out something obvious.
VIDEO HERE SHOWING GEARS CATCHING
Help!
I'm so awfully close to riding, and thought today would be the day after a long couple nights of wiring nonsense straightened out. But I've had a strange thing happen, that I need help sorting out.
Bike: 1977 XS650D
I had the bike idling nice today, was letting it warm up to go on the first good ride in while, go to put it in first, and stalled immediately. Thought maybe my clutch wasn't engaging after a few tries, so I pulled off the clutch adjuster plate on the left side of the engine, and adjusted a little tighter, but still while holding the clutch in, in first gear, the gears would catch. So I pulled the bike reluctantly back into the garage, drained the oil, pulled the right side cover off, to examine the clutch plates and see if they were just gummy from the bike sitting for several months. I went through all the plates, they're not in perfect shape, but didn't seem too worn down and I didn't see any red flags. So following the tech section, I reinstalled the full clutch via the videos from the tech section. And sure enough, even with the clutch plates engaging when I pull the clutch, my gears are still acting as if the clutch is not engaging or being pulled... I've recording a video showing the exact action, to show you guys how the plates are moving, and how when I rotate the back tire (in first gear) with the clutch pulled, it hits a wall, and won't go any further, or "stalls out" without the engine on.
The last time I opened the right engine cover was several months ago, I did so to tighten the clip on the starter motor, cause it was making a ton of starter noise. After I tightened the clip following some of the threads, the noise went away . Thanks to 5twins
I put the starter back in, and while doing so, the kickstart popped out on me, so I put that back in as well, to what seemed correct, followed my manual, a mix of threads, and video to make sure both the kick + starter went in correct.
I guess several months ago when I did this, I never actually put it in first gear.... I must have just idled, and been happy that the kick + starter both worked seemingly as they should. (Cold Winters in NYC, had me not ride it around the block at the time.)
So now I'm pretty confused. Could this be from installing the starter gear incorrectly that it would "catch" in first gear no matter if you have the clutch pulled or not? Could it be the kick start with the same theory? I examined everything, photos attached, and I'm not finding anything off or weird.... Let me know if anything sticks out to you guys.
I've never had any clutch issues in the past, so I'm assuming it's me installing the starter or kickstart incorrectly without realizing... maybe these symptoms may be something obvious for someone whos done this before, or the videos/pictures show something obvious to someone else who's more experienced with rebuilding the right side might point out something obvious.
VIDEO HERE SHOWING GEARS CATCHING
Help!