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Right side crank case gasket
- Thread starter Pina
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Most senior members here says No but I do it --on both sides of the gasket Permatex
It is an old habit .. It helps if it is a more worn bike with perhaps a little warped cover and or scratches in the surfaces.
I get better results having it and not needing to do it again
It also holds the gasket a bit in place while doing it.
If I reall right there is some special washers on some of the bolts ( or was it some other bike ? )
It is an old habit .. It helps if it is a more worn bike with perhaps a little warped cover and or scratches in the surfaces.
I get better results having it and not needing to do it again
It also holds the gasket a bit in place while doing it.
If I reall right there is some special washers on some of the bolts ( or was it some other bike ? )
No do not use sealer. What I do is get the surfaces spotlessly clean and then coat the gasket with red grease.
Have not had any problems with leaks.
Works for me, your results will depend on how clean you get things.
Have not had any problems with leaks.
Works for me, your results will depend on how clean you get things.
There are some copper washers that the factory used on the bottom bolts. Never figured out why, the holes are blind. I have never used them.
Pina
XS650 Enthusiast
I also have not had a problem with reusing the gasket that have been coated in red grease, even the green ones.
Pina
XS650 Enthusiast
Do you use red or blue?
Yes
Pina
XS650 Enthusiast
Make sure you get the surfaces clean. Be very careful using sharp objects to clean then. You only want to remove old gasket material not metal.
Black or Black Brown
perhaps you are referring to loctite for locking bolts which comes in different colors
Have used since the days I did not need to shave ..That was what the boys said back then ..Smear that on
Not sure if it is available or he best.. but that company have other of the same sort.
Not to much because it can cause problems i Once smeared to much on a carburetor for a VOLVO and got myself into trouble .
Regarding copper washers even if it is a blind hole the copper washer can function as the copper washer under the drain plug
Should the oil reach the bolt
Not questioning GLJ s method he is experienced. But the chemical I feel can help if warped or scratched surfaces.
Permatex® Super "300" Form-A-Gasket® Sealant,
https://www.permatex.com/products/g...ermatex-super-300-form-a-gasket-sealant-4-oz/
EDIT i can se they have blue and red silicone
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An important aspect of sealing an oil bearing cover like this is to use a torque wrench and make all the screws/bolts the same tightness. Making them super tight doesn't seal things, making them all the same does. The fasteners for this cover (and most of the others on the bike) are an M6 size. Standard torque vale for that is usually speced at 5 to 8 ft/lbs. Being a 40+ year old machine and since these go into alloy, I don't use the max. For years I used 80 in/lbs but recently have backed that off some. I now use 72 in/lbs (6 ft/lbs) and things still seal up fine.
I use a calibrated wrist. In 45+ years of wrenching I have learned what is too tight and what feels right. I would bet that my bolts are within a few inch pounds of each other.
You want them snug, not as my dad would have said "not bulls ass tight".
After the oil and tire questions, what gasket sealer? is next.... 
I usesoylent green Hylomar Blue on the flange of the cover only, and oil or grease on the engine side.
The factory used sealant on the cover side, with only about a 1/2" smear of sealant on the motor side of the joint where the top and bottom crankcase halves join at front and rear of the cover joint.
The sealant whatever you use should be a THIN smear. No goobers of glop that get loose inside the motor, clog oil passages, and well you get it.
A heads; up the tach drive seal is usually shot, oil runs down and rearwards along the cover gasket....
spray with mineral spirits, ride a bit watch where the oil appears first, a bit of talc or foot powder huffed in the area helps quickly show where the oil is coming from.
I use copper washers on the bottom cover bolts and the oil filter cover bolts.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/rh-cover-leak.51364/post-540907
cover already COATED with Hylomar....
Don't be THIS guy.
I use
The factory used sealant on the cover side, with only about a 1/2" smear of sealant on the motor side of the joint where the top and bottom crankcase halves join at front and rear of the cover joint.
The sealant whatever you use should be a THIN smear. No goobers of glop that get loose inside the motor, clog oil passages, and well you get it.
A heads; up the tach drive seal is usually shot, oil runs down and rearwards along the cover gasket....
spray with mineral spirits, ride a bit watch where the oil appears first, a bit of talc or foot powder huffed in the area helps quickly show where the oil is coming from.
I use copper washers on the bottom cover bolts and the oil filter cover bolts.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/rh-cover-leak.51364/post-540907
cover already COATED with Hylomar....
Don't be THIS guy.
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Not been so much into the removing of it but i am pretty certain alcohol solves the one I have been using
It is sold here as fuel for camp stoves and house cleaning
https://www.biltema.se/en-se/leisure/camping-and-outdoors/gas-stove/methylated-spirit-2000043632
Putting it on a rag and wipe a little solves it ..
In fact I have both close Ill try it Yes Sir .. Works well
As a side note the vinos tried to drink it back in the day but there are additives making it close to impossible
Was talk of Attempts to filter it through white bread
Pina
XS650 Enthusiast
couple of the "mysteries of the kickstart revealed" threads. 2nd one is the bible on the subject.
https://www.xs650.com/threads/insta...how-to-get-the-damn-spring-on-the-perch.9850/
https://www.xs650.com/threads/kickstart.772/
https://www.xs650.com/threads/insta...how-to-get-the-damn-spring-on-the-perch.9850/
https://www.xs650.com/threads/kickstart.772/
