been many years, a guy local to me had someone show up, took bike for a spin, left his family in car at persons house, she gets a call & takes off, it seemed he wrecked bike in a curve under 2 miles away, bike had dead tags, no insurance, & guy left scene, bike was impounded by police, and owner got into issues. he had no idea who was riding bike, it was a big mess, & bike was totaled, just a parts bike afterward.
I bought a bike over a decade ago, I showed up with truck & wife, guy took 1 look at me & said you need to test ride dont you? I said yep, it had been sleeting all day, & I had drove nearly 200 miles on slick stuff to go see the bike, but guy also said you rode all your life & used to ice, & I said yep, my hair nearly to my belt, my beard 18" long, & could tell I been in Harley scene for decades, hands me keys, I came back 15-20 min later, discussed issues i saw on bike, negotiated deal, loaded & drove home, & guy shaking his head, saying never in a million years would he believe let someone drive in ice, or that I would have actually drove to see bike in ice. but I rode for over 3 decades year round, & rode to & from work all winter for most of my life