Buzzy's revival: '82 Heritage Special

...and here we are. A simple 2X4 and a bottle or scissor jack. You could even get away with wood blocks instead of the jack(s) if you had someone momentarily sit and raise the front wheel. A 2X4 cut to length and holes drilled to settle it into the engine.

It just hangs on the wall out of the way when not in use and it's dead simple to make. I can do a writeup detailing the dimensions if there's any interest?
In the past, scissors jack and miscellaneous lengths and blocks of lumber - have a box-full of in the garage and they come in useful quite often. But since Jim has kindly offered to supply dimensions I'll make up a dedicated piece to fit Miss November - a lady needs some discreet support here and there as she gets a little older.
 
Buzzy seems to be fitting in well with my lifestyle. It is 34°F this morning and he is not hauling my lunch to work but also my coffee.
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Dang @Boog Buzzy cleaned up nice! How's it runnin?
Freeway RPM is around 4900-5000. This shows 60-62 mph on the speedometer but pacing with Pretty Pillion in her car, she says we are doing 70. Her car is a few mph lower at that speed than the GPS says. Therefore, if the bike is really traveling at 72ish mph, it does well. It has a little bit more to give at that speed if i need to pass a slower vehicle. however, at 60 mph indicated on the dial, I am getting passed by more cars than I am accustomed too. And it rightfully earns its name of Buzzy at that speed.
I am happy to say that this little bike is filling a hole I was unaware I had. It needs a lot of attention for sure, but it runs good and will get little fixes here and there as the days go by.
I am getting the windscreen from Willis. That will make for more comfortable rides in the winter though I suspect it may slow me down a tad too.
I will source a fork brace after payday. I think that will help my front suspension some.
 
Buzzy seems to be fitting in well with my lifestyle. It is 34°F this morning and he is not hauling my lunch to work but also my coffee. View attachment 201004

If I understand this right ( temperature ) it is close to freezing and on bridges shadow places and previous sub cooled rain
It can be high time to park it. Dont want to fall over ..

4900 - 5000 fits better with 70 depending on sprockets

Need for winter oil if Low temperatures ??? ( just thinking loud there )
 
If I understand this right ( temperature ) it is close to freezing and on bridges shadow places and previous sub cooled rain
It can be high time to park it. Dont want to fall over ..

4900 - 5000 fits better with 70 depending on sprockets

Need for winter oil if Low temperatures ??? ( just thinking loud there )
Thanks Jan, I suspect you are well versed in winter operations where you live. If I remember from history class, Sweden is where Europe makes winter and ships it out to the rest of the countries from there.

I ride all year here in Virginia and usually lose less than 10 days each winter to bad road conditions. I do park the bike when there is ice and snow on the roads.

Changing the oil is on the list of things to do this coming week. I have not bought any yet, do you have a good winter weight in mind?
 
For me, with stock sprockets, 4000 RPM is comfortable and about 60 mph. I don’t ride where I have to maintain higher speed.
Warm your oil before getting the RPM up or goodbye sump screen.
The bike warmed up before I rode off for at least 5 minutes this morning and it took another 5 minutes before I got to the freeway.
 
These bikes greatly benefit from a gearing change, but just a small one. When it comes time to replace your sprockets, keep the front stock (17T) but go down one or two teeth on the rear. Stock rear is a 34T. Get a 32T or 33T. On a 16" rear wheel, I like a 32T, on an 18" wheel I prefer the 33T.

And I never did comment on fork oil so here goes ..... I stick with the recommended 10wt. oil. One of the issues with these forks is they're not real responsive to the little bumps, jolting you through the bars instead of soaking them up. I feel that using heavier oil would only make this issue worse. However, I do feel more than the stock amount is needed and works better. As mentioned earlier here, the stock amount is about 5.8 ounces per leg. I use 6.5 to 7 ounces. I'll go with 7 if the forks were torn down, all cleaned out, and totally dry inside. I'll use 6.5 for just a drain and fill. I have a homemade leveling tool I use to equalize the amounts from side to side. It's basically the same thing as the store-bought ones, a length of brass tubing with an adjustable stop, and a little syringe on top .....

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I did some fork "tuning" on my '83 recently after the rebuild the forks got. Since they were stripped and cleaned, I started with 7 ounces of oil but that proved a bit too harsh. So, I sucked some out of each leg. I ended up going with the often mentioned setting of 6" from the tops of the tubes, springs removed and forks fully compressed. I measured the total amount I sucked out and it was about an ounce, so that means I ended up with about 6.5 ounces per leg. That may be the golden number there for these forks. Adding the extra oil greatly improves the fork function. They won't dive nearly as much under braking. I also noticed when I filled the forks on my '78 with the stock amount of oil, they were very "squishy" when pumping them up and down. They actually made squishing noises. Adding more oil fixed that too.

Going back to the unresponsiveness to little bumps, many of us modify our damper rods by doing something called the "Minton Mods" to them. Basically, this is just enlarging the holes in the damper rod slightly, and adding one more small one at the top .....

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This allows them to flow oil easier and better, and that improves the fork response. It's a simple, free mod you can do and it really helps.

For fork springs, I put the MikesXS progressive springs in my '78 and they work nice, but I can't recommend them today. I bought them years ago when they were cheap but they have raised their price so much now, you can get real Progressive Suspension springs for about the same. On my '83, I thought I'd try to save the cost of new springs and just add some preload spacers to the originals .....

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I always liked the stock springs, they are a nice dual rate type. They were always too soft though, even with the preload cap adjusters cranked all the way up. The caps have two steps, each adding 10mm of preload, so you can add 20mm total. I figured spacers a bit longer than that should do the trick, so I made them 1" (about 25mm). On paper, this looked good, about a half step stiffer than the stiffest cap adjuster setting, but it was actually more. What I didn't take into account was the washer I had to add under the spacer, that added a few more MM to the preload. So, I was actually preloading them 27 or 28mm, close to a full adjustment step more, and that proved to be too much. The forks were too harsh and stiff. So, I shortened my spacers about 3/16" and now, combined with the washer, they're giving me 23 or 24mm more preload. And this seems to be just right.

So, to recap, 6.5 ounces of 10wt. oil, the Minton Mods, and 13/16" preload spacers added to the stock springs, and the forks are good.
 
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@5twins Thank you much for explaining this. I know you have done so for others but it really does help me here in regards to my bike. My plan at present is to conduct modifications to Buzzy that do not bring it offline for any real amount of time until I can get my Stratoliner back on line. I have a strong inner desire to have at least 2 operational machine as close to all time as I can. My guess in doing the forks like you describe (considering my own ability and workspace) will take me a whole weekend to successfully complete. Thank you again for showing me this!
 
On my way home today, I was about 3 miles into my ride when Buzzy started sputtering as if out of gas. Mileage since last fill up indicates right at 90 miles. I reach down for the petcock and turn it to reserve. The bike continues to slow from 60 to 45 then kicks in hard and accelerates back to cruising speed of 60mph indicated. I rode to my neighborhood gas station 14 miles away and filled up 3 gallons exactly. 104 miles total divided by 3 gallons comes to 34.6 mpg which is close to my 35 mpg first run.

I believe I have the 3.9 gallon fuel tank so at the pump I still had .9 gallons left. Does the regular tank run dry at 2.9 gallons leaving 1 gallon left? Is this consistent with other's findings?

Is Buzzy's mileage consistent with others who ride at 4,900 to 5,000 RPM?
 
@5twins I have now confused myself a bit on the number of teeth for the rear sprocket. I put the bike up n the center stand and counted the teeth twice and came up with 35 each time. I marked the hub with my finger to see my stop and start point but now I am second guessing my procedure. If I am correct, my guess would be that someone put a larger sprocket on for some reason, or I cannot count anymore...
 
Your tank is 3 gallons, not 3.9. Your mileage is atrocious.

It sounds like 34 teeth to me. I like it that way myself.

Rotella is diesel oil. Some run it. You should be able to find 10W40 motorcycle oil to use in the cold. That would be my preference. YMMV
 
I've never heard of a 35T rear sprocket for one of these bikes so you must have counted wrong. There are 34's and 36's, no 35's. As Jet said, your MPG is bad. I get low to mid 40's on both mine, on a mixed riding tank. Mostly highway should give better. Some claim as high as 50 but I've never seen that. I must have a lead wrist, lol.

How do your plugs look? If they're really black, you could be running rich for some reason, and that could explain the bad mileage.
 
Short comments Apologize if not read through
As I understand it the bike was bought and driven Home .There is a Possibility that there is dirt + water + rust in the tank
Then it would be a coping strategy at this point in time not to drive long between filling up avoiding reserve all together.
Avoiding that the bottom content runs trough into the carburetors. I don't use the reserve at all On and Pri only.
And fill up frequently.

Sprockets Who knows what are on there .Front and back . And another gearing would be an explanation for the high rev high Gas consumption at highway speeds .

Oils
I Would avoid Diesel oils and " Modern " oil. Pouring in other things than factory recommendations should in my view be avoided
Unless as in this case cold weather
Now we have Ethanol in the gas with the problems that can cause
And the clutch can start to slip with the wrong oil. And / Or getting hard to shift I use mineral oils and change rather often.
Most likely the lubrication would be better with other oils .But again the factory has a design. I stick to that.
I never do the Start and full throttle get away .As back in the days was the norm .for many Letting it warm up a while putting on helmet and gloves
Then I don't open up the first minutes.
Mr JetM has a comment about the filters and Oils screens.

Plugs
I have min too black to rich I feel mine runs better ..Less vibrations and none at all at the cruising speed.
I believe I could get more snappy response with leaner and more at the top.But I don't do much of that type driving on this bike .
This winter I am gonna go down but I will still keep it rich and if I get back vibrations I go up again
More consumption ?? I dont care .. I have rarely kept check on that .
It is not any major cost. And I would suspect even less so in The US I notice you drive all season here it worst can be Between end mid September and end mid April being to cold and to risky Say you use gas for $3 -- 400 .. What can be saved 10 % $ 30
Is it worth it .Putting in work getting that down if it gets difficult to start and vibrates
I have had Worn bikes in the last Owner segment .The Mileage has been a secondary issue in that context.
Life is full off Compromises ..

.As it sounds the sprockets are non stock and the bike needs a few miles before any re jetting. Check for leaks.
So the ignition charging and so are right.
 
@jetmechmarty thanks for clearing that up on tank size. That makes more sense now at the pump.
I figured I was counting wrong. Dang gray hair causes that I hear.
And thanks for your take on the Rotella.

@5twins I will check the plugs soon. Good call on that. and as said above, I am pretty sure I miscounted twice.

@Jan_P the inside of the tank looks quite clean from what I can see. And this bike was a daily, around town, rider. He also told me that he did not do any long trips on the bike so my guess is most of its operation has been city speeds for the last 1.5 years. With that aid, the bike had obviously sat for a long period of time somewhere before he bought it and started working on it.

The bike does have a slight leak on the right carb coming out of the pod filter. I have not tore it down to find the cause.

My mileage question was more about knowing if something is amiss. I am not one who worries about the fuel cost as I have no control over that. And as you mentioned, saving those few cents a week is not a high priority. But if the low mileage is a function concern, I do want to correct that before it ruins something expensive.
I like your view about the engine oil. That aligns with my thinking as well. Use the correct type and change on schedule. I am planning to get the sump conversion and spin on filter. I am awaiting an email reply now from @muddergirl12 about the one she sells.
 
Thinking out loud again
If you like you can upload a video of the engine running and blipping the throttle response
And idling
Sound high up in the engine and exhaust smoke One can hear it fairly well if it is in the right region.
Not saying that its not OK or that you don't know it yourself..
But it is a Possibility
 
I was looking this up for prices and I read this is for diesel engines. I cannot find one specific to motorcycles. Is this the same for our bikes?
Yes It is diesel engine oil, It's the only thing other than motorcycle specific oil thats rated for wet clutches. Motorcycle riders have been using it for years, it costs less than motorcycle oil. If your going to be racking up miles and riding a lot the cost savings can be significant. Otherwise use use 4 stroke motorcycle oil. Asking motorcycle riders what the best kind of oil is can start fist fights :boxing: there are loads of differing opinions. The FACTS are that yes rotella diesel oil is a ONE of the recommended oils for older 4 stroke wet clutch bikes. I have run it with no problems as have many others.
 
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