Just out of curiosity - Airplane Guys

I remember when the Buff went down. The mishap board was quite thorough, pilot error sent ripples throughout the force.

Hi Boog,
it's far less costly to blame one dead pilot than to search out a tech problem in a fleet of aircraft.
It's usually the 3rd crash before they stop blaming the dead guy.
 
I hesitated to post that. But there's some strong take aways from the whole situation/ timeline. The loss of the rest of the crew, the tragedy. From past pilot behavior it could have gone worse with ground casualities .
 
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it's far less costly to blame one dead pilot than.....
In this case Fred it was the pilot. He had a reputation as a "hot dog" who would regularly brake the rules and regs. He shoulda' been grounded years before he killed these guys.
Iirc... he was also a non-current desk jockey at the time. RHIP... :banghead:
 
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My pilot friend Anthony has taken me up in various planes including his lovely vintage Luscombe, and his Dad's Starduster biplane. Which I helped Anthony rebuild (my role was very minor) after his Dad had a whoopsie.

Time spent aloft in small planes, those mentioned and a few others, gliders and powered microlights, taking the stick and feeling the plane fly - etched in the mind.

He calls commercial flying 'the day job' and a 737 'the office'.
 
One of my old squadrons before we transitioned to the S/HH-60F/H. Notice the forward rotator is just touching the sand and the main mounts are slightly buried in it. Also notice the upper door is not attached to the personnel door. This Sea King was doing Special Ops/ Combat Rescue training in daylight. A crewman would hang out the upper door to talk the pilot down. Another on the other side would be in the cargo door doing the same. If it were real, a machine gun would sit in the opening with both upper and lower door removed.
That landing is fast and sometimes not gentle. We get on the ground fast, off load and back in the air immediately to avoid having the bird disabled on the ground by baddies. I do miss my old life...
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Here the Sea King is practicing a SEAL insertion via Fast Rope.
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I logged a couple hr`s in a Starduster 2. The only tail dragger, "Real Airplane" I`ve ever flown. Wish I was closer to Wausau, I`d hand them the $400 in a heartbeat.:thumbsup: Here are some noteworthy posts today from the great VFT site.
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One of my old squadrons before we transitioned to the S/HH-60F/H. Notice the forward rotator is just touching the sand and the main mounts are slightly buried in it. Also notice the upper door is not attached to the personnel door. This Sea King was doing Special Ops/ Combat Rescue training in daylight. A crewman would hang out the upper door to talk the pilot down. Another on the other side would be in the cargo door doing the same. If it were real, a machine gun would sit in the opening with both upper and lower door removed.
That landing is fast and sometimes not gentle. We get on the ground fast, off load and back in the air immediately to avoid having the bird disabled on the ground by baddies. I do miss my old life...

I spent 22 years in the Navy. Of that, a total of 12 days was onboard a ship (ships, actually) at sea. They made sure that 12 days was as interesting as possible. I was stationed at Mobile Technical Unit 10 in Charleston SC. There was a Battle Group getting underway to relieve the group in the Med and there were a number of unresolved issues in my area of expertise, so I get tagged to "ride the group" over and fix things on the way.

In the process I transferred from ship to ship while underway 4 times. Once from a Fast Frigate (don't recall the name) to another small boy, don't recall the type or name. That was via the CH53 Log Helo (Logistics deliveries to various ships in the formation) The bird hovered over the fantail of the frigate and lowered a horse collar, hoisted my petrified ass up into the bird and then lowered me onto the fantail of the CG the same way. They told me to make REAL sure the deck hand had the grounding hook on the cable before I allowed any part of my body to touch the deck. Static electricity from the rotor blades, ya know. Pretty sure I crossed my ankles behind my head before he got a hook on the cable.

Got moved from the second small boy to the Guided Missile Cruiser Richmond K. Turner. This was via LAMPS helo. Officially, the Light Airborne Multi Purpose System. Unofficially, the Light Airborne Mail and Passenger Service. Same deal, horse collar up and down.

Got picked up off the Rickety T via the horse collar but this time the bird actually landed on the Spruance. Wasn't there long, just a re-fuel I think, then hopped back on the helo and transferred to the carrier America. On that ride, they sat me next to the open door and the smartassed pilot decided to roll the bird up on it's side and give me a good look at the waves. I didn't shit myself. Quite...

Spent the night on the America and then flew the COD (Carrier Onboard Delivery) bird to NAS Sigonella, Italy. Getting launched off the cat was...interesting.

I was pretty happy to get back to Charleston (via a nightmare of waiting in various places for Space Available seats heading my way. 3 days from Sigonella to Charleston) and my boring desk job.
 
They told me to make REAL sure the deck hand had the grounding hook on the cable before I allowed any part of my body to touch the deck.
I watched someone grab the hook on the CH53D before grounding. It dropped him like turning off a light switch.
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Spent a summer as a kid on a H-19 ground crew... wrestling air conditioner units onto big buildings. Got knocked on my ass more times than I care to remember. Hmmm.... maybe that's what's wrong with me... :umm:

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'Nother of my pilot friends, Gordon, few years older than me, started out flying fast jets in the RAF in the early '70s but later in his career moved to air traffic control. So when he left the RAF was able to get a job in civil ATC at Edinburgh International, EDI. As part of 'career development' the ATC staff had occasional route familiarisation flights with the airlines operating out of EDI. So one day, Gordon found himself wedged in behind two pilots in the jump seat of, I can't recall if he said it was a 747 or an Airbus, doesn't matter, on the way to Tenerife.

The flight to Tenerife was uneventful, they landed and disembarked the sun-seekers. Stood around on the apron kicking the tyres while the plane was refuelled. Gordon told me that much of the coastline of Tenerife is cliffs, so the airport sits on a plateau. Then loaded up the people ending their holidays and took off.

On the climb out, the plane went into an unexpected corkscrew manoeuvre, the right wing dropped, power was cut, they lost a lot of altitude, way down below the height of the cliffs. Briefly headed along the coast, then the left wing dipped, power came back on and they resumed climbing away.

Gordon had the First Officer's voice in his headphones, 'Did ye get that, Gordon? Did ye get it? That's the best nudist beach in Tenerife!'

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An except I saw on Facebook:

Aviation Dictionary...
* Bank: The folks who hold the lien on most pilots' cars.
* Nanosecond: Time delay built into the stall warning system.
* Parasitic Drag: A pilot who bums a ride and complains about the service.
* Service Ceiling: Altitude at which cabin crews can serve drinks.
* Spoilers: The Federal Aviation Administration.
 
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Kandahar, AF March 2006.

Brand new single engine Huey with more power than the older UH-1N dual engines. It can take a lot of battle damage too before giving up. This is a poppy eradication mission.
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The Hangar at Kandahar the State Department used for Poppy control
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Special tool used by the crew to protect ground team removing poppies...
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Sherpa and Boog in his tent in Kandahar. Sherpa really hates poppies...
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