Tires

[Jim]

A 2x4 on each side will distribute the pressure better to break the bead.

Yes, a 2X4 spreads the load, but drastically increases the amount of bead area you're trying to dislodge in one go. A C-clamp will concentrate that force in one localized point on the bead... much easier to break that point loose than 6, 8 or 10" all at once.

 

[5twins]

Now, what could be done to that to dual purpose it for other uses?

Well, when I built the base for my HF tire changer, I sized it so this tire/wheel holder would drop right in ......

Then when not being used to hold the changer, it could be used as a nice little work table, once I filled in the giant hole in the center, lol .....

 

[TX650A Van Islander]

Regarding tightening the tube valve stem nut, I leave mine finger tight to loose on my DR650 as was advised by my dual sport riding buddies, so the valve stem doesn't get pinched if the tube moves especially at lower air pressures off road. When we have had flats in the bush, we've used another bike's side stand to break the bead. Primitive but effective. Those nuts are only finger tight to loose in my my TX650A wheels, and that has been fine.

 

[bosco659]

Regarding tightening the tube valve stem nut, I leave mine finger tight to loose on my DR650 as was advised by my dual sport riding buddies, so the valve stem doesn't get pinched if the tube moves especially at lower air pressures off road. When we have had flats in the bush, we've used another bike's side stand to break the bead. Primitive but effective. Those nuts are only finger tight to loose in my my TX650A wheels, and that has been fine.

The sidestand trick sounds interesting, that is if you have the spare bike available. Just for interests sake, I’ll try taking my digital scale out to the garage and see how much force I can generate from the Shadow’s side stand.

How often do you get flats riding off-road?

 

[TX650A Van Islander]

How often do you get flats riding off-road?

It seems once a year perhaps or every 2 years. It depends on luck it seems. The more guys on an outing, the higher the odds. I, touch wood, have not had one, but two or three of my riding buddies have when I've been there. For the last year or so I've always taken levers, spare tube, air compressor, patch kit, soap, valve removal tool etc. Here on Vancouver Island if you're riding on a quad or jeep accessible trail there are almost always fire remnants and empty beer cans. People burn pallets so there are always nails around. You have to avoid these areas but sometimes just unlucky and you pick one up.
The kickstand thing is a two person deal for sure which can result in pain or another bike on the ground if care is not taken.

 

[Melnic]

Shinko 777 white walls came in.

 

[Wingedwheel]

Shinko 777 white walls came in.

I used the Shinko WW’s on my Ultra and I’m very pleased however I did drip some brake fluid on the back one while bleeding the brakes and it left a stain. I wiped it right off and was surprised it affected the white as quickly as it did but the rear tire is 90% covered by bags and fender so it’s not a big deal.

 

[Melnic]

Front came off not to difficult and went on pretty easy.
C clamp to pop the bead.
I cleaned up the inside of the rim with all the rubber that stuck to the inside. Forgot to take a before pic.

I warmed up the front and wire tied it but just wire ties was not easy enough so the last 1/4 I used the spoons.
But wire ties seemed to help cause I did not have to do one side at a time and the opposite side all stayed in the drop center
Bead set right away.

 

[bosco659]

I should make one.

 

[TX650A Van Islander]

sort of looked like something could go sideways and hit that dude right in the face. Yes, I know it didn't, but I guess I just have my safety hat on at the moment

 

[Jim]

sort of looked like something could go sideways and hit that dude right in the face. Yes, I know it didn't, but I guess I just have my safety hat on at the moment

Maybe, but I don't think so. The rim itself stops it from going at him, and it's bolted to whatever he used to attach it to the receiver... so I think it's safe.
I've got a couple extra scissor jacks I could never bring myself to toss, so I think I'm gonna give this a go. A little different though, I'm gonna weld up a proper frame for it all to set on. I'll post some pics when I've made it.

 

[bosco659]

Maybe, but I don't think so. The rim itself stops it from going at him, and it's bolted to whatever he used to attach it to the receiver... so I think it's safe.
I've got a couple extra scissor jacks I could never bring myself to toss, so I think I'm gonna give this a go. A little different though, I'm gonna weld up a proper frame for it all to set on. I'll post some pics when I've made it.

The jack the guy is using is a levelling jack for a trailer or RV. It has a much higher lift than a regular auto scissor jack. I used these at our cottage to support the floor joists before I had the foundation repaired. I know I have at least one spare so I’ll bring it home in the springtime. I’m going to make one too and will weld a 2” square tube on the top that will fit into my truck’s hitch.

 

[Melnic]

All I needed was a larger C clamp for the rear.
Everyone needs large C clamps cause you never know.

 

[Melnic]

Tires on and took short ride.
All good.

 

[Shelby]

Tire shopping time. Over at JP Cycles looking at Shinko 777s. Anyone know the difference between the Shinko 777 Cruiser 110/90-19 61H and 110/90-19 62H? Besides $20? I'm not sure if the 61/62H is part of their stock number or a size thing. Not seen it anywhere else though. And do you guys have a fav brand on rim liners and tubes? The 130/90/16 for the rear only comes in one option.

 

[Shelby]

I use the 712 rears all the time but don't care for the matching 712 front. It's kinda "squirmy", giving a gentle head shake as I go through about the 35 to 40 MPH range. I guess I've grown used to it because I hardly notice it anymore, but needless to say, I won't be using one again. For a front tire, I like this Metzler style tread pattern .....


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It's worked well with any rear I've tried it with. Unfortunately, Cheng Shin stopped making them, lol. But there is another tire manufacturer, Vee Rubber, making copies now .....

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And of course, you could always buy the original Metzler if you didn't mind paying an arm and a leg, lol.

Was looking for the Metzlers, but I can't find any of these. Going Shinko I guess.

 

[Kevin Werner]

Tire shopping time. Over at JP Cycles looking at Shinko 777s. Anyone know the difference between the Shinko 777 Cruiser 110/90-19 61H and 110/90-19 62H? Besides $20? I'm not sure if the 61/62H is part of their stock number or a size thing. Not seen it anywhere else though. And do you guys have a fav brand on rim liners and tubes? The 130/90/16 for the rear only comes in one option.

Speed rating? Load rating?

 

[Jim]

Speed rating? Load rating?

Correct. H is the speed rating (130mph). 61 and 62 are load ratings. Here's the chart...

https://shinkotireusa.com/support/load-index-speed-rating

 

[5twins]

For a front, I always run a 100. A 110 may be too wide.

 

[Wingedwheel]

I’ve run several sets of the Shinko’s mainly because of the cost factor and rhey’ve been good tires however the last set I bought I had to use more weights than I like to balance the front.